Re: Outdoor cat

From	"Mr Macaw" <no@spam.com>
Newsgroups	alt.usage.english
Subject	Re: Outdoor cat
Date	2016-01-04 17:16 +0000
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On Mon, 04 Jan 2016 16:19:46 -0000, GordonD <g.davie@btinternet.com> wrote:

> On 04/01/2016 15:58, Mr Macaw wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Jan 2016 02:07:01 -0000, Ross <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 10:42:12 AM UTC+13, Mr Macaw wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 21:37:21 -0000, Peter T. Daniels
>>>> <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 3:48:04 PM UTC-5, Mr Macaw wrote:
>>>> >> On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 03:53:17 -0000, Peter T. Daniels
>>>> <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> >> > On Friday, January 1, 2016 at 4:22:05 PM UTC-5, Mr Macaw wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> >> Do you guys still call a road a pavement, even though it isn't
>>>> paved, but tarred?
>>>> >> > No one in the US calls a road a pavement. Pavement is that which
>>>> constitutes
>>>> >> > paving -- on sidewalks, road surfaces, private walks, driveways
>>>> to houses, ...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I've heard many Americans on TV say "sidewalk" for the walking bit
>>>> and "pavement" for the driving bit.
>>>> >
>>>> > It seems highly unlikely that that's what they were referring to by
>>>> > "pavement." No one, say, in a safety video would instruct a child to
>>>> > "look both ways before stepping from the sidewalk onto the pavement."
>>>> > It would be "... from the sidewalk into the street."
>>>>
>>>> It was something more like, "I was driving my car along the pavement
>>>> when I hit a child."  Which of course sounds ridiculous in the UK,
>>>> where he shouldn't be driving on the pavement at all.
>>>>
>>> This set me thinking about how "pavement" is used in NAmEng.
>>
>> Nam?  What's Vietnam to do with it?  ;-)
>
> North AMerican English. But then you knew that.

Yes, that's what the wink is for.  [shakes head]

>>> The above sounds odd because "pavement" does not refer to the
>>> street or road itself but to the paved _surface_, and could
>>> include the surface of a street, a sidewalk, a parking lot etc.
>>
>> No it couldn't, as they won't be paved, but tarmacked.
>
> Some pavements are covered with tarmac rather than paving slabs. Just
> saying...

Most are actually.  I guess it's historic.  We can't start saying "sidewalk" or we'd sound like the Americans, and we'd hate that.

Some pedantic legal types here say the road and pavement are both the road.

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