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On Mon, 04 Jan 2016 02:07:01 -0000, Ross <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

> On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 10:42:12 AM UTC+13, Mr Macaw wrote:
>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 21:37:21 -0000, Peter T. Daniels <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 3:48:04 PM UTC-5, Mr Macaw wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 03:53:17 -0000, Peter T. Daniels <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >> > On Friday, January 1, 2016 at 4:22:05 PM UTC-5, Mr Macaw wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> Do you guys still call a road a pavement, even though it isn't paved, but tarred?
>> >> > No one in the US calls a road a pavement. Pavement is that which constitutes
>> >> > paving -- on sidewalks, road surfaces, private walks, driveways to houses, ...
>> >>
>> >> I've heard many Americans on TV say "sidewalk" for the walking bit and "pavement" for the driving bit.
>> >
>> > It seems highly unlikely that that's what they were referring to by
>> > "pavement." No one, say, in a safety video would instruct a child to
>> > "look both ways before stepping from the sidewalk onto the pavement."
>> > It would be "... from the sidewalk into the street."
>>
>> It was something more like, "I was driving my car along the pavement when I hit a child."  Which of course sounds ridiculous in the UK, where he shouldn't be driving on the pavement at all.
>>
>This set me thinking about how "pavement" is used in NAmEng.

Nam?  What's Vietnam to do with it?  ;-)

> The above sounds odd because "pavement" does not refer to the
> street or road itself but to the paved _surface_, and could
> include the surface of a street, a sidewalk, a parking lot etc.

No it couldn't, as they won't be paved, but tarmacked.

> Some quotes which may clarify this:
>
> [OED] 1964   Life 5 June 89   Skateboarding requires only a tapered
> piece of wood flexibly mounted on roller-skate wheels and a stretch
> of pavement.
> 1986   D. Koontz Strangers i. ii. 175   She had learned to loathe
> the rumble of the car's engine, the hum of tires on the pavement,
> and the unspooling highway ahead.
> 2003   Washington Post (Nexis) 18 Apr. t5   To ease the pressure
> inside, the short stretch of pavement outside the bar was closed
> to traffic.
>
> Some more from ProQuest (LA Times December 1992)
>
> LA Times 31/12/92  horseplayers who stormed out of Santa Anita in
> mid-afternoon, tossing their programs to the pavement in the
> parking lots.
>
> The mules, which had scurried to keep from being overrun by the float,
> actually slowed the rolling mass by digging into the pavement....
>
> 30/12  a charter bus headed for Los Angeles skidded on wet pavement
> and overturned near Los Banos.
>
> the President-elect pounding the pavement, next to two guys in Ray-Ban sunglasses pretending to be runners
>
> ["pounding the pavement" is a common expression referring to
> extensive urban walking or running -- in this case Bill Clinton jogging]
>
> 25/12  the dress is in a fabric that shimmers with metallic sparkles
> resembling the glittering new pavement on Hollywood Boulevard.

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