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On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:57:37 -0500, <visualforth@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, December 14, 2014 10:54:43 PM UTC-5, the_gavino_himself wrote:

>> where learn how to program them?
>
> Hi Gavino,
>
> Thanks for your great question!
>
> 35 years ago I had a request to build a microprocessor system to be used  
> for alarming firefighters. It should have data for several hundred  
> villages in a rural area.
>
> At that time I heard that Hewlett Packard is using databases to organize  
> data, while other companies used software where data have been stored  
> locally. So my idea was to write a database for my 6502 microprocessor  
> system.
>
> To prepare myself I went to our town library looking for books about  
> databases. I found a lot, discovering that airlines have been massively  
> using databases, and I read a lot about there. I am glad I found a book  
> which told me that it is important that you don't loose data when there  
> is a power outage.
>
> It took me several weeks to write my database software on a 6502 system  
> using a hex keypad controlled monitor program. To reduce typing, I wrote  
> a little VM, which was fast and did a great job.
>
> And then, in 1979, I read the BYTE magazine reporting about Forth -  
> there it was again, not only a little VM, but a complete OS.
>
> In 1993 I got a request to write the same system again, but this time  
> using an OS9 operating system. So I ordered Mitch Bradley's Forth for  
> OS9. Writing the database software needed only one Sunday afternoon this  
> time.
>
> I encourage you to read books about databases and start programming a  
> database with a Forth program which suits you. I would suggest  
> Win32Forth, because it is free, good documented, and easy to use.
>
> Please report about your success and/or your problems!
>
> P.S.: Back then I didn't know that databases are the future. I could  
> have started a database business, competition to Oracle, which was in  
> it's beginnings back then (I just looked it up at Wikipedia). But I  
> missed the chance. Don't miss the chance to do something good!

I like the story. :-)  And, it doesn't help Gavino one bit. ;-)

I missed out on more than one way to be very wealthy myself. :-(
Hindsight is 20-20.

If Gav-No's past history is taken into account, he won't be
reporting any successes or failures.  His rant never changes,
much like Hugh's. Gav: 1% code, browser in Forth, etc.


Now that that's said.  You can't find any MS-DOS books at any
library anywhere anymore.  I've checked.  Wow, so many "-any's"
in that sentence.  The world has moved on to Amazon.  So, it's
even more unlikely he'll find a Forth book.  I can tell you for
a *fact* that there was only *one* library in nearly a 200 mile
radius that had any books on Forth in the early 1990's.  I live
near a major U.S. city.  I checked every local city library,
about 50 of them, the library of the major city, the libraries of
every college and university, about a dozen of them, and even a
few libraries of private schools, e.g., business schools.  This
was before computerized databases of the library catalogs and
inter-library loans, etc. These libraries once had many, many
books on MS-DOS, but only one had a few on Forth.  So, today,
you're very unlikely to find many libraries with books on Forth.
I'm sure you could find one in the New York public library,
or the Library of Congress, or the largest university libraries.
Of course, he'd need to live near one of those, and be willing
to go there, and be willing to read and learn, and ...


Rod Pemberton

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