Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn

From	"Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1>
Newsgroups	comp.misc, alt.sys.pdp11, alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn
Date	2014-05-24 10:20 +0100
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References	(2 earlier) <llnmdv$t7q$1@dont-email.me> <llo5si$t11$1@speranza.aioe.org> <lloajs$mop$1@dont-email.me> <llog9b$mr5$1@speranza.aioe.org> <2375.291T1556T10554653@kltpzyxm.invalid>

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On Sat, 24 May 2014 02:35:31 +0100, Charlie Gibbs  
<cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

> In article <llog9b$mr5$1@speranza.aioe.org>, gah@ugcs.caltech.edu (glen
> herrmannsfeldt) writes:
>
>> In alt.sys.pdp11 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
>>
>> (snip, I wrote)
>>
>>>> I have always seen l instead of L, and so decided to look it up.
>>
>>>> I never knew this before, but it seems that the rule is that
>>>> units named for people are upper case, and units not named for
>>>> people are lower case. That is the official SI rule.
>>
>>> Yep.  But slavishly following the rules leads to locally
>>> suboptimal results.
>>
>> It seems that one is supposed to put either a hyphen or space
>> between the numeric value and the unit.
>
> I'd lean toward a space myself, reserving the hyphen for
> adjective phrases (e.g. if you run 10 km, it's a 10-km run).
>
>>> Likewise, you often see "ug" or "um" because some apparently find
>>> it too difficult to write "??g" or "??m".  The medical field
>>> uses "mcg", which is even worse than "ug".
>>
>> I think the first time I saw it, I thought it was milli-centi-gram,
>> but it seems that SI specifically disallows compound prefixes.
>
> It still feels wrong to me too.
>
>> That has always been less obvious for disks. For one, the disks built
>> by IBM for many years didn't have power of two sizes. The IBM 2314
>> has a track length of 7294 bytes. The IBM 3330 has 404 cylinders
>> with 19 tracks each (plus a servo track) and 13030 bytes/track,
>> which multiplies to 100018280 bytes, so just barely over 100 million.
>> Though I don't ever remember hearing it described as 100 megabytes,
>> it seems too close for an accident.
>
> And since the 3330 and 2314 (and the 2311 before it) were all CKD
> devices, that 100 megabytes was a theoretical maximum which was
> never reached in practice.  I always thought of a 2314 spindle
> (advertised capacity 29.17 megabytes) as holding 20 to 25 megabytes
> depending on block sizes used.

Aye, we spent some time carefully deciding on blocksizes back then.

>
>> In any case, marketing departments long ago started using decimal
>> prefixes for disk size.
>
> And memory, too.  I used the terms "programer's K" and "salesmen's K" -
> where else but in the magical world of marketing could you add 32K to
> an existing 32K and come up with 65K?
>


-- 
It's a money /life balance.

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Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-19 15:44 +0000
  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-19 15:47 +0000
    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-19 21:33 +0000
    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-21 10:32 +0000
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-21 11:01 +0000
        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-21 11:38 +0000
          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-21 12:23 +0000
            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn bill@server3.cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon) - 2014-05-21 12:40 +0000
              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-21 15:59 +0300
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-21 13:16 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-21 18:38 +0200
              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-21 13:18 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2014-05-21 13:46 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-21 21:22 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-21 15:03 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-21 15:20 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2014-05-22 21:40 +1000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2014-05-22 08:20 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-05-22 18:14 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2014-05-23 07:21 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn pechter@tucker.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2014-05-21 19:11 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-21 20:18 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-21 21:16 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-21 22:19 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-21 23:02 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-22 05:42 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-22 19:22 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-22 19:26 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-22 17:52 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-22 18:02 -0800
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-23 02:02 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 13:16 +1000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-23 06:51 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-23 09:35 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 19:55 +1000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2014-05-23 09:49 -0600
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-23 19:24 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2014-05-23 14:23 -0600
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-24 16:19 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-23 07:32 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-23 07:09 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-23 09:36 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-23 19:00 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-23 15:21 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-23 21:58 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-24 00:34 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 10:22 +1000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-23 17:35 -0800
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-24 10:20 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-24 21:41 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-24 00:33 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Christian Corti <use@reply.to> - 2014-05-24 10:39 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-24 09:28 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-24 13:13 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-24 10:51 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-24 18:50 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-24 20:05 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stan Barr <plan.b@dsl.pipex.com> - 2014-05-24 16:22 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-24 19:30 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-26 09:36 -0800
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-26 15:01 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-26 22:02 +0300
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-26 19:17 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-26 15:40 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-26 22:14 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Christian Corti <use@reply.to> - 2014-05-25 22:30 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-26 05:02 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 20:34 +1000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-24 13:36 +0300
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 16:29 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-24 14:47 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Christian Corti <use@reply.to> - 2014-05-25 22:43 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-25 17:56 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-26 11:49 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-26 14:18 +0300
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Christian Corti <use@reply.to> - 2014-05-28 17:46 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-28 20:11 +0300
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-28 13:29 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-28 19:19 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-05-29 14:10 -0700
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-30 00:42 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-30 05:48 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Christian Corti <use@reply.to> - 2014-05-29 18:00 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 13:17 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-05-30 15:57 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-30 11:29 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-30 15:55 -0800
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2014-05-30 20:32 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-31 08:50 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-06-01 10:11 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-06-01 16:07 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-29 18:42 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Lawrence Statton <lawrence@perl.mx> - 2014-05-29 14:15 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-29 15:32 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-28 19:13 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-05-28 14:44 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-05-28 22:45 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-30 11:10 -0800
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2014-05-29 05:48 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-26 13:26 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-26 13:06 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 12:35 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Christian Corti <use@reply.to> - 2014-05-28 17:49 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-28 13:06 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 14:16 +1000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-30 04:47 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-30 11:41 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "ratty" <ratty@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 21:05 +1000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2014-05-30 19:16 +0800
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-26 13:02 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-26 18:44 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-26 21:10 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-26 21:14 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-26 21:45 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-26 23:59 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-26 23:44 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 11:35 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-26 20:25 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-05-26 13:38 -0700
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-05-27 13:59 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2014-06-14 18:05 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Oeter Johns" <oj19854@nospam.com> - 2014-06-15 07:32 +1000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-15 00:50 +0300
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-15 16:44 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-24 16:27 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-24 14:53 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "2ju" <2ju@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 06:59 +1000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-24 22:44 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-29 13:40 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-29 20:01 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-05-24 19:01 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-25 00:58 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-25 13:17 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-05-26 17:08 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-25 10:17 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-22 09:54 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-22 15:56 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-22 14:07 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-23 12:44 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-21 08:20 -0800
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-05-22 17:58 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-23 00:00 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-22 18:12 -0800
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-23 09:50 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-23 18:37 +0300
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-24 16:59 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn bill@server3.cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon) - 2014-05-23 16:22 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-23 12:08 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-23 12:03 -0800
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-23 21:58 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-24 03:20 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-24 13:11 +0100
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-24 21:47 -0400
                What constitutes being a Yankee? [was Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2014-05-29 14:58 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-24 15:59 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2014-05-23 23:41 +0200
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-24 04:09 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-24 21:52 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2014-05-24 21:31 -0400
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2014-05-25 14:34 -0500
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2014-05-23 16:15 +0800
              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-05-21 14:15 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn bill@server3.cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon) - 2014-05-21 14:35 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn bill@server3.cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon) - 2014-05-21 14:38 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2014-05-21 08:22 -0800
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2014-05-21 15:43 +0000
                Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-22 15:54 +0000
            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2014-05-21 07:07 -0700
          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-21 15:23 +0100
  Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-19 23:10 +0200
    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-19 22:54 +0100
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-20 19:52 +0200
        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-20 23:22 +0100
    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-20 11:10 +0000
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2014-05-20 11:56 +0000
        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-05-20 12:32 +0000
          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2014-05-20 15:24 -0500
            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2014-05-21 14:08 +0000
              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-21 16:06 +0000
        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-20 13:50 +0000
          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rob Brown <brown@greenslade.gmcl.internal> - 2014-05-20 19:49 +0000
            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-21 10:35 +0000
          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-05-20 21:11 +0000
            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Bob Eager <news0002@eager.cx> - 2014-05-20 21:20 +0000
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-05-20 13:45 +0100
        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-05-21 05:31 +1000
          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2014-05-21 09:35 +0200
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2014-05-20 15:14 +0100
        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Rob Brown <brown@greenslade.gmcl.internal> - 2014-05-20 20:00 +0000
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2014-05-20 16:45 -0400
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-05-20 21:14 -0700
        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-05-21 09:42 +0100
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-05-21 10:33 +0000
    Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-20 13:40 +0000
      Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-21 09:40 +0200
        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-21 08:27 -0400
          Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-21 16:10 +0100
            Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-05-21 12:11 -0400
              Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-21 20:52 +0100
        Re: Revamped PDP-11 in Brooklyn jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2014-05-21 13:06 +0000

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