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Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing?

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On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 04:38:13 -0400, Andrew Haley  
<andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> wrote:
> Rod Pemberton <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> wrote:

>> Supporters of free software always do this.  They say: "Look it's
>> free!"  Then, they turn around and support capitalism in their next
>> breathe saying that "money will still flow [somehow]."
>
> There is no incompatibility between commerce and free software.
>

What commerce occurs with free software?  Minimal as compared to non-free.
Is it anywhere near as much as with non-free software?  No.
What does a smaller market do to programmers salaries and jobs?  Reduce.

>> I don't get it.  The two are *not* compatible economically.  You
>> can't *not* pay for something and also expect experts who expect to
>> be paid to code it for you.  Someone must pay them to work.  Who?
>> Why?
>
> Because you can pay for free software: it's free as in freedom, not as
> in price.  "Software libre" may be a better term.
>

Did you pay for Linux for home use?  (Yeah, I didn't think you did...)

Do individuals pay for a full install of GNU/Linux?  No.  So, yes, most
of the free software movement is based on free as in price.

Let's look at some the software I didn't have to pay for with this
install of Linux.

Opera, Mozilla Firefox, Leafpad, Thunar, Catfish, GCC and GLIBC,
Galculator, LibreOffice, Wireshark, VLC media player, Adobe Flash
Player, Java, Alkasaurus, GTK, QT4, Geany, GIMP, Inkscape, GNOME player,
MPlayer, Exaile, Brassero, AbiWord, ePDFviewer, etc.

There are numerous other applications and an untold quantity of libraries.
That doesn't include the OS proper or all the command line utilities it
provides.  No one received any financial compensation from me for that,
nor you.  Did they deserve to?  Yes.

Few if any of the abundance of programmers involved were paid.  How does
forcing programmers to go into bankruptcy benefit society?  That's what
you're arguing for when you argue for free software.  Obamacare is going
to force insurers into bankruptcy while enriching drug companies.  No
one is arguing that is fair or beneficial.


Rod Pemberton

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Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-04-01 00:10 +0100
  Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? David Kuehling <dvdkhlng@posteo.de> - 2014-04-01 06:34 +0200
    Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Assad Ebrahim <assadebrahim2000@gmail.com> - 2014-04-01 00:19 -0700
  Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-04-01 15:53 +0000
    Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Assad Ebrahim <assadebrahim2000@gmail.com> - 2014-04-01 13:12 -0700
      Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-04-01 23:06 +0200
        Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Assad Ebrahim <assadebrahim2000@gmail.com> - 2014-04-01 14:42 -0700
        Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Assad Ebrahim <assadebrahim2000@gmail.com> - 2014-04-01 18:04 -0700
          Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? David Kuehling <dvdkhlng@posteo.de> - 2014-04-02 09:41 +0200
            Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-04-02 12:27 +0200
              Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Assad Ebrahim <assadebrahim2000@gmail.com> - 2014-04-02 10:35 -0700
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-04-02 20:49 +0200
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Assad Ebrahim <assadebrahim2000@gmail.com> - 2014-04-02 16:44 -0700
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-04-03 05:12 -0500
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 04:14 -0700
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-04-03 08:26 -0500
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-04-03 23:04 +0200
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-04-04 02:36 -0400
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-04-04 03:38 -0500
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-04-04 15:19 +0200
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-04-04 18:03 -0400
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-04-05 09:12 -0500
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-04-05 15:37 +0100
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-07 23:25 -0700
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-04-08 06:13 -0400
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-04-03 12:39 +0100
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-04-03 08:33 -0500
                Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-04-03 10:47 +0000
  Re: Maximum heap memory available to GForth when allot-ing? hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-04-01 16:36 -0700

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