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Re: Building a multiboot system!

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On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 07:16:43 -0000, Rod Pemberton  
<dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 20:37:50 -0500, Patrick Rockwell  
> <prockwell@thegrid.net> wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:01:47 PM UTC-8, JJ wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:25:23 -0800 (PST), Patrick Rockwell wrote:
>
>>> Yes, there are a view USB storage drivers for DOS. But they won't
>>> be needed if you simply want to boot to a USB drive, and your BIOS
>>> already support USB storage feature as a setting [...].
>>>
>> Ahh, so if I have that kind of BIOS, could dos 6.22
>> use all usb peripherals? If not, will grub allow my
>> Windows to copy downloaded files to my dos partition?
>
> Modern BIOSes which support the BIOS Boot Spec. (BBS) will
> let you *boot* a USB device.  It's emulated as an IDE device
> by the BIOS.  DOS, however, will not "see" the other non-boot
> USB devices without DOS USB drivers.  DOS will only see the
> boot USB device because the BIOS is emulating it.  Also,
> Windows 98/SE will *not* boot from a USB device.  Win98/SE
> resets the USB controllers during startup of Windows which
> causes a boot failure, i.e., no external USB install.  In fact,
> I've failures with booting Linux from external USB devices too.
>
> I would think the GRUB would allow you to boot DOS, and IIRC, that's
> true.  But, I can't confirm since I've not used it for that.  It used

Yes it can, I have it here.

> to be that Linux required the first partition on a hard disk to be a
No longer required.
> swap partition.  That might interfere with booting DOS.  Some OSes won't
> boot if the boot code isn't in the lower tracks of the disk.  IIRC,
> DOS is one of those.
yes, IO.SYS needs to be in the 1st 2G. I think DOS requires a C drive, but  
I may be wrong.
(It doesn't have to be the 1st partition, but its probably best that way)

>
> My recommendation if you want multiple systems on the same computer
> is to install them on separate internal hard drives (or SSDs), then use

It's OK with partitioning

My min spec would be:
2G DOS/W98 (FAT16), 6G? DataDrive (FAT32), 4G XP (FAT32) 2G small linux  
EXT2 (xPUD, Tinycore, Puppy), 4G Mint or Ubuntu, whichever I'm playing  
with, then an ext3 swap

(obviously you can allocate more to the v. partitions if available, but 2G  
is the max for DOS)
I put grub on the small linux ptn. (To edit the menu.lst, I need to boot  
to a linux, but the small ones are pretty fast)

> the BBS boot menu (usually F11 or somesuch...), to select a different
> boot device at startup.  I would avoid USB, except to use it as a
> replacement for a DOS floppy.

Grub 1.x is one I've found OK (I didn't get on with Guub2), but I've not  
tried a lot of bootmanagers.

>
> Rod Pemberton


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Building a multiboot system! Patrick Rockwell <prockwell@thegrid.net> - 2013-12-18 20:25 -0800
  Re: Building a multiboot system! JJ <duh@nah.meh> - 2013-12-19 13:01 +0700
    Re: Building a multiboot system! Patrick Rockwell <prockwell@thegrid.net> - 2013-12-19 17:37 -0800
      Re: Building a multiboot system! "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2013-12-20 02:16 -0500
        Re: Building a multiboot system! "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2013-12-20 11:30 +0000
          Re: Building a multiboot system! dg1261 <dgREMOVE-THIS1261@cs.com> - 2013-12-21 00:59 +0000
            Re: Building a multiboot system! "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2013-12-21 12:18 +0000
              Re: Building a multiboot system! "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2013-12-21 15:11 +0000
              Re: Building a multiboot system! "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2013-12-21 17:35 -0500
                Re: Building a multiboot system! "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2013-12-21 23:33 +0000
            Re: Building a multiboot system! "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2013-12-21 14:47 +0000
        Re: Building a multiboot system! Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2013-12-22 15:31 -0500
  Re: Building a multiboot system! dg1261 <dgREMOVE-THIS1261@cs.com> - 2013-12-19 11:29 +0000
    Re: Building a multiboot system! Harry Potter <rose.joseph12@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-19 08:10 -0800
      Re: Building a multiboot system! Patrick Rockwell <prockwell@thegrid.net> - 2013-12-19 13:37 -0800
      Re: Building a multiboot system! dg1261 <dgREMOVE-THIS1261@cs.com> - 2013-12-20 06:22 +0000
        Re: Building a multiboot system! "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2013-12-20 02:16 -0500
          Re: Building a multiboot system! "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2013-12-20 11:15 +0000
          Re: Building a multiboot system! dg1261 <dgREMOVE-THIS1261@cs.com> - 2013-12-21 00:56 +0000
            Re: Building a multiboot system! "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2013-12-21 01:51 -0500
              Re: Building a multiboot system! dg1261 <dgREMOVE-THIS1261@cs.com> - 2013-12-21 08:54 +0000
                Re: Building a multiboot system! "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2013-12-21 12:26 +0000
              Re: Building a multiboot system! Steph <pas.de.mail@serveur.invalid> - 2013-12-21 15:11 +0000
    Re: Building a multiboot system! Patrick Rockwell <prockwell@thegrid.net> - 2014-02-07 14:15 -0800
      Re: Building a multiboot system! dg1261 <dgREMOVE-THIS1261@cs.com> - 2014-02-08 09:41 +0000
  Re: Building a multiboot system! miepbart@gmail.com - 2014-08-17 00:02 -0700

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