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Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips

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On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:58:04 -0400, Albert van der Horst  
<albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> wrote:

> My point is the amount of libraries needed to start an OS is  
> mind-boggling.

You just need a full featured C compiler to code an OS in C.
That's it.  30% or so of the C language is independent of
the host and another 40% is custom to each host, but works
the same across different platforms.  30% is not portable.
Of course, a full featured C compiler provides inline assembly
which is needed on the x86 platform to provide special
x86 processor instructions.  However, no C libraries
are needed to bootstrap an OS in C.  A C library isn't that
dependent on an OS either.  To build a C library, you only
need about 18 to 20 functions provided by the OS, plus a
large amount of C code to implement the library.  Of course,
an efficient C library can use over 200 functions provided
by the OS.

I'm not sure what the exact equivalent would be for Forth,
but most likely it's just the base Forth language plus some
assembly, perhaps meta-compilation (cross-compiling...) too.

If you're interested in bootstrapping an OS, come on over
to news://alt.os.development or http://wiki.osdev.org.

But, be forewarned that most guys either code an OS in
x86 assembly or C.  Very few use C++.  Very few develop
for non-x86.  I've never heard of Forth being used, probably
because Forth either is an OS already or isn't, depending
on the implementation.


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Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-09-27 14:52 -0700
  Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2013-09-27 12:35 -1000
    Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-10-02 00:01 +0200
      Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-02 00:35 -0700
        Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 04:00 -0400
      Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-02 01:34 -0700
        Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-02 07:30 -0700
      Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-10-02 10:26 +0000
        Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Bill Richards <billrich@gmx.com> - 2013-10-02 14:41 +0000
          Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-02 08:25 -0700
            Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-10-02 23:13 -0400
        Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2013-10-25 12:46 +0200
      Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-11-06 17:00 -0800
  Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2013-10-04 08:09 -0700
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    Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-11-17 13:55 -0800
  Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2013-10-15 16:45 -0700
    Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Spam@ControlQ.com - 2013-10-16 11:20 -0400
      Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-10-17 12:03 +0000
        Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Spam@ControlQ.com - 2013-10-17 11:40 -0400
          Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-10-17 19:58 +0000
            Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Spam@ControlQ.com - 2013-10-17 17:22 -0400
              Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-10-17 11:45 -1000
                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Spam@ControlQ.com - 2013-10-18 13:33 -0400
                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-11-17 14:15 -0800
            Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@nohavenotit.com> - 2013-10-18 04:02 -0400
              Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Stefan Mauerhofer <smauerhofer@androsoft.ch> - 2013-10-18 07:01 -0700
                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-10-18 08:53 -1000
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                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-11-07 07:38 -1000
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                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 10:00 -0800
                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2013-11-16 17:22 -0500
                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-11-16 13:53 -1000
                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-11-17 04:17 -0600
                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-11-17 15:21 +0100
                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-11-17 08:55 -1000
                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-11-17 16:13 -0600
                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-11-17 12:37 -1000
                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@nohavenotit.com> - 2013-10-18 21:19 -0400
                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-11-17 14:28 -0800
                Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-11-17 14:34 -0800
        Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-10-17 11:32 -1000
        Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@nohavenotit.com> - 2013-10-18 04:02 -0400
      Re: Id love to surf web with 4megs ram forth pc using forth and forth chips gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2013-11-17 14:11 -0800

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