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Re: a small but significant win

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.global-warming, sci.environment, aus.general, aus.politics
Subject Re: a small but significant win
Date 2026-10-16 15:56 +1100
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

> Multicilrism allows policatil parties rascist bias.

We have always had multiculturalism

> Gough Whitlam bought the term to Australia

Bullshit he did
https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_37a4f3c0-8d15-4544-95fc-d284ce483308

> Example
> Prime Minister Gough Whitlam was sacked on 11 November 1975 by
> Governor-General Sir John Kerr

Nothing whatever to do with multiculturalism

> End of the Vietnam War
> Global Conflict End:  April 30F, 1975 (Fall of Saigon).
> Election and Order: Whitlam took office on December 5, 1972, and
> immediately moved to end military conscription and withdraw the
> remaining training and advisory personnel.Final Departure: The
> absolute last elements of the Australian military left Vietnam in June
> 1973

> Vietnamese refugees began taking to small boats immediately following
> the fall of Saigon in April 1975, with thousands arriving in
> neighboring Southeast Asian countries (such as Thailand, Hong Kong,
> and Malaysia) before the phenomenon famously caught wider global
> attention when the first refugee boat (Kein Giang) successfully sailed
> all the way to Darwin Harbour in Australia on 26 April 1976.

We had LOTS of multiculturalism LONG before
that, most obviously the Ming's Columbo Plan

> Australia: Implemented its first official multicultural policies in
> 1973 under the Whitlam Government,

BULLSHIT

Lots of multiculturalism with immigrants LONG before that

> driven heavily by Immigration
> Minister Al Grassby and later shaped by sociologist Jerzy Zubrzycki
> Australia fought in the Vietnam War for 10 years, spanning from August
> 1962 to December 1972.

> South Vietnam was Australia's primary ally during the conflict.

More mindless pig ignorant bullshit, the USA was

>  Australian forces fought directly alongside the Army of the Republic
> of Vietnam (ARVN) against the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army.

> Whitlam said on the ABC that Australia did not want “another
> reactionary right-wing minority”. Foreign minister Don Willesee
> pleaded with him to take more. Whitlam replied: “I’m not having those
> f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious
> and political prejudices against us.”

> Whitlam opposed the entry of Vietnamese refugees, saying they stirred
> no sympathy in him. He added: “There will be some resentment about the
> people coming to Australia at a time of unemployment, and also people
> from a very different way of life.”

> In other words, Whitlam consciously stirred up ethnic and racial
> prejudice against Vietnamese because he thought they might be
> politically hostile to Labor.

Arfer Caldwell did plenty of that just because he was a racist bigot

> Ihe Final Evacuation Contradiction
> The final days of the Australian presence in Saigon highlight the
> deliberate nature of the policy:
> Empty RAAF Planes: When the final Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF)
> Hercules transport planes took off from Saigon, they left with dozens
> of empty seats.

Because the vietnamese were storming the planes
and there was a real risk of them becoming unamble
to take off due to being grossly overloaded

> The pilots and embassy staff on the ground wanted to
> load them with fleeing Vietnamese allies, but strict, direct orders
> from Whitlam’s office prevented them from doing so.

That last is a bare faced lie

> The Contrast with Fraser: The moment Malcolm Fraser took over later
> that year, he didn't need new information to act.
> The exact same intelligence briefs were available, but Fraser chose to
> act on the moral obligation, immediately launching the rescue
> operations that brought the 60,000 refugees to safety.

> Australia first accepted Vietnamese refugees by boat on April 26,
> 1976, when the first unregistered refugee vessel (Kien Giang) sailed
> into Darwin Harbour. Small numbers had also arrived earlier in 1975
> via specialized evacuations like Operation Babylift, but April 1976
> marks the official start of the sustained "boat people" arrivals

> The historical consensus is clear: Whitlam was not operating in the
> dark.
> He knew exactly what the consequences would be for Australia's allies,
> and he chose to let the door slam shut anyway.

More of your mindless bullshit

> Whitlam used the same defence as Göring, tried minimize his personal
> awareness or involvement in his mass extermination?

There was no mass extermination

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                Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-14 17:02 +0000
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                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 16:02 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-14 14:36 -0600
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                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:01 +1100
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                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 07:38 +1100
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                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:10 +1100
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                Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-16 03:06 +0000
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 09:38 +1100
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                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:26 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win multistrada <ab@in.valid> - 2026-10-15 10:42 -0600
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            Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-14 20:34 +1100
              Re: a small but significant win R Kym Horsell <kym@sdf.org> - 2026-10-14 09:54 +0000
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-15 08:01 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 22:09 +1100
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                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 06:10 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:00 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:15 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:45 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 07:51 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 08:06 +1100
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                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 11:07 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 14:32 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 15:39 +1100
                Re: a small but significant win Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2026-10-16 16:03 +1100
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