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Re: OT: US politics

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.computers, aus.tv, aus.cars, aus.legal
Subject Re: OT: US politics
Date 2024-10-04 10:11 +1000
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Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
> Mighty Mouse wrote

>> "Very few Americans realize that, if Trump is NOT elected, this will be  
>> the last election.

> Bullshit. If Trump is elected, then that may well be the case, as Trump  
> has promised to dismantle the US Constitution:

Bullshit he has and there is no way for him to do that anyway.

> https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/how-trumps-proposed-radical-expansion-of-executive-power-will-impact-our-freedoms

And there is no way for Trump to actually impose that.

> Trump asked for and received presidential immunity from any future  
> crimes he may (likely, will) commit.

BULLSHIT on the received.

> https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/supreme-court-grants-trump-broad-immunity-for-official-acts-placing-presidents-above-the-law

Bullshit it has.

> Of course, appalling that the Trump appointed judges are, that decision  
> may come back to bite them (and Trump), as Biden now has the power to  
> put a bullet into Trump's head.

Bullshit it did.

>> Far from being a threat to democracy, he is the only
>> way to save it!

> Wrong. Trump has already damaged the US in many ways.

We'll see...

> He has killed  off many American's right to their own bodies.

Bullshit. The most that has happened is that the SUPREMES
have ruled that the feds no longer get to tell the states what
they must do on abortion law. The states are still free to do
what they like abortion law wise.

> Abortion is now illegal in many US states, thanks to Trump's judges.

Another bare faced one eyed lie.

>> Let me explain: if even 1 in 20 illegals become citizens  per year, 
>> something that the Democrats are expediting as fast as  humanly
> > possible, that would be about 2 million new legal voters in 4 years.

> Prove your claim.

Prove yours above. The that one eyed ucla shit is no proof.

> Hard evidence will be accepted,

You have presented nothing even remotely like that.

> not heresay

That's all your ucla shit is or more strictly CLAIMS

> or  ANYTHING from Trump's lips. Trump is a liar:

How odd that you waved what he claimed above..

> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

How odd that you waved what he claimed above..

>> The  voting margin in the swing states is often less than 20 thousand  
>> votes.

>> That means if the “Democratic” Party succeeds, there will be no more
>> swing states!!

> Prove it.

It wasnt his claim, so he doesnt have to do that.

> Hard evidence will be only accepted.

How odd that you haven't actually presented a shred of that yourself.

>> Moreover, the Biden/Harris administration has been flying
>> “asylum seekers”, who are fast-tracked to citizenship, directly into
>> swing states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin and Arizona.

> Prove it.

It wasnt his claim, so he doesnt have to do that.

> Hard evidence will be only accepted.

How odd that you haven't actually presented a shred of that yourself.

>> It is a
>> surefire way to win every election. America then becomes a one-party
>> state and Democracy is over.

> That is PRECISELY what Trump wants:

> https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained

Prove it. Hard evidence will be only accepted.

> It's evil and will turn the US into a one party (Republican) state.

Prove it. Hard evidence will be only accepted.

> Read  every fucking word, BEFORE you make another comment.

Go and fuck yourself, again.

>> The only “elections” will be the Democratic  Party primaries.

> No, they will not. It's TRUMP who wants to throw the US Constitution  
> away:

Prove it. Hard evidence will be only accepted.

> https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html

Just because some fuckwit journo claims something...

>> This already happened in California many years ago,
>> following the 1986 amnesty.

> Bullshit:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

> It was simply dealing with reality.

>> The only thing holding California back from
>> extreme socialism and suffocating government policies is that people  
>> can  leave California and still remain in America.

> Are you fucking serious now?

That's MUSK, not felix, stupid.

> By any measure, California is way further right wing (even with a left  
> wing state government) than any place in Australia.

> Have you ever been to California? I have. A few times.

Irrelevant.

>> Once the whole country is
>> controlled by one party, there will be no escape.

> Which is what is proposed by Trumpists:

Prove it. Hard evidence will be only accepted.

> https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained

Just because those clowns claim something...

> Trump began by stacking the Supreme Court with a bunch of right wing,  
> religious, gun loving nutters.

Prove it. Hard evidence will be only accepted.

> He will continue by locking up those who  disagree with him:

Prove it. Hard evidence will be only accepted.

> https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/07/media/trump-threatens-retribution-against-press/index.html

Just because some fuckwit journo claims something...

>> Everywhere in America
>> will be like the nightmare that is downtown San Francisco.” - Elon  
>> Musk  via X

You stupidly missed that last bit.

> If the Turmpists (I won't call them 'Republicans', because they are not  
> really Republicans anymore. They are just neo-Nazis.

Prove it. Hard evidence will be only accepted.

>> If you believe the democrats’ rallying cry of “saving democracy,” I’ve
>> got a bridge to sell you. In reality, this is what “saving democracy”
>> looks like:

>> A one party state

> Bullshit. Read this (IN FULL):

> https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained

Just because those one eyed fuckwits claim something...

>> Censorship

> Bullshit:

> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/09/republican-book-bans-censorship-free-speech

Just because some fuckwit journo in that shit rag claims something...

> https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/07/media/trump-threatens-retribution-against-press/index.html

Just because some fuckwit journo in that steaming turd claims something...

>> Gun confiscation

> Bullshit. Harris is a gun owner. That said, I reckon Americans are  
> fucking idiots for NOT placing much heavier restrictions on firearms.

They can't, that would be unconstitutional.

> Much as I hate John Howard, the one, shining good thing he did was to  
> enact gun reform in Australia.

Not possible in the USA given their constitution.

>> Social credit scores

> Prove it.

It wasnt his claim, so he doesnt have to do that.

>> Destruction of the Constitution

> Bullshit. That's what the Trumpists want:

Prove it.

> https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html

Just because some fuckwit journo in that steaming turd claims something...

>> Persecution of dissidents

> Again, bullshit. That's what the Trumpists want:

Prove it.

> https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/07/media/trump-threatens-retribution-against-press/index.html

Just because some fuckwit journo in that steaming turd claims something...

>> Centralization of economic and political power

> Prove it.

It wasnt his claim, so he doesnt have to do that.

>> In fact, it looks like whatever the left wants it to look like because
>> they will have total power and complete control…over you, your
> finances,
>> your property, your movement, your health, your body, your children,
>> EVERYTHING!

> You fucking moron. That's what Trump has already done!

Bullshit

> https://www.npr.org/2022/06/24/1102305878/supreme-court-abortion-roe-v-wade-decision-overturn

Just because some fuckwit journo in that steaming turd claims something...

And even that steaming turd isnt even true of just some women's bodys.

>> Elon gets it. “Saving democracy” looks exactly like totalitarianism.

> Elon sees that the Trumpists will cut taxes for the rich.

He doesnt pay US taxes.

> No one is richer than Musk, so he supports Trump. He will become richer  
> under Trump.

Nope, he doesnt pay US taxes. And has no influence on how anyone votes  
anyway

>> communismsurvivor <https://www.instagram.com/communismsurvivor/>

>> .........................................................

>> now you know why they opened the Southern border.

> Did they? When. Be precise in your response you fucking moron.

Something you have never ever done.

> Read EVERY SINGLE WORD of my cites, BEFORE you attempt to reply.

Go and fuck yourself, again.

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  Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 09:52 +1000
    Re: OT: US politics Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 10:42 +1000
      Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 14:56 +1000
        Re: OT: US politics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-10-04 16:18 +1000
          Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 16:50 +1000
            Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 20:02 +1000
              Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 08:19 +1000
            Re: OT: US politics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-10-05 07:31 +1000
              Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 07:46 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 11:13 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 13:28 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-05 14:14 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 19:29 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 20:32 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 20:35 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-05 22:36 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 05:39 +1100
                Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 06:20 +1100
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                Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 13:55 +1100
                Re: OT: US politics Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-10-05 23:36 +1000
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    Re: OT: US politics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-10-06 11:42 +1100
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      Re: OT: US politics Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-06 13:18 +1100
      Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 13:49 +1100
  Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 10:11 +1000

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