Re: OT: US politics

From	Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>
Newsgroups	aus.computers, aus.tv, aus.cars, aus.legal
Subject	Re: OT: US politics
Date	2024-10-03 19:52 +1000
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On 1/10/2024 11:55 am, Mighty Mouse wrote:
 > "Very few Americans realize that, if Trump is NOT elected, this will be
 > the last election.

**Bullshit. If Trump is elected, then that may well be the case, as 
Trump has promised to dismantle the US Constitution:

https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/how-trumps-proposed-radical-expansion-of-executive-power-will-impact-our-freedoms

Trump asked for and received presidential immunity from any future 
crimes he may (likely, will) commit.

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/supreme-court-grants-trump-broad-immunity-for-official-acts-placing-presidents-above-the-law

Of course, appalling that the Trump appointed judges are, that decision 
may come back to bite them (and Trump), as Biden now has the power to 
put a bullet into Trump's head.

Far from being a threat to democracy, he is the only
 > way to save it!

**Wrong. Trump has already damaged the US in many ways. He has killed 
off many American's right to their own bodies. Abortion is now illegal 
in many US states, thanks to Trump's judges.

Let me explain: if even 1 in 20 illegals become citizens
 > per year, something that the Democrats are expediting as fast as humanly
 > possible, that would be about 2 million new legal voters in 4 years.

**Prove your claim. Hard evidence will be accepted, not heresay or 
ANYTHING from Trump's lips. Trump is a liar:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

The
 > voting margin in the swing states is often less than 20 thousand votes.
 > That means if the “Democratic” Party succeeds, there will be no more
 > swing states!!

**Prove it. Hard evidence will be only accepted.

Moreover, the Biden/Harris administration has been flying
 > “asylum seekers”, who are fast-tracked to citizenship, directly into
 > swing states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin and Arizona.

**Prove it. Hard evidence will only be accepted.

It is a
 > surefire way to win every election. America then becomes a one-party
 > state and Democracy is over.

**That is PRECISELY what Trump wants:

https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained

It's evil and will turn the US into a one party (Republican) state. Read 
every fucking word, BEFORE you make another comment.

The only “elections” will be the Democratic
 > Party primaries.

**No, they will not. It's TRUMP who wants to throw the US Constitution away:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html

This already happened in California many years ago,
 > following the 1986 amnesty.

**Bullshit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

It was simply dealing with reality.

The only thing holding California back from
 > extreme socialism and suffocating government policies is that people can
 > leave California and still remain in America.

**Are you fucking serious now? By any measure, California is way further 
right wing (even with a left wing state government) than any place in 
Australia. Have you ever been to California? I have. A few times.

Once the whole country is
 > controlled by one party, there will be no escape.

**Which is what is proposed by Trumpists:

https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained

Trump began by stacking the Supreme Court with a bunch of right wing, 
religious, gun loving nutters. He will continue by locking up those who 
disagree with him:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/07/media/trump-threatens-retribution-against-press/index.html

Everywhere in America
 > will be like the nightmare that is downtown San Francisco.” - Elon Musk
 > via X

**If the Turmpists (I won't call them 'Republicans', because they are 
not really Republicans anymore. They are just neo-Nazis.

 >
 > If you believe the democrats’ rallying cry of “saving democracy,” I’ve
 > got a bridge to sell you. In reality, this is what “saving democracy”
 > looks like:
 > .
 > A one party state

**Bullshit. Read this (IN FULL):

https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained

 > Censorship

**Bullshit:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/09/republican-book-bans-censorship-free-speech

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/07/media/trump-threatens-retribution-against-press/index.html

 > Gun confiscation

**Bullshit. Harris is a gun owner. That said, I reckon Americans are 
fucking idiots for NOT placing much heavier restrictions on firearms. 
Much as I hate John Howard, the one, shining good thing he did was to 
enact gun reform in Australia.

 > Social credit scores

**Prove it.

 > Destruction of the Constitution

**Bullshit. That's what the Trumpists want:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html

 > Persecution of dissidents

**Again, bullshit. That's what the Trumpists want:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/07/media/trump-threatens-retribution-against-press/index.html

 > Centralization of economic and political power

**Prove it.

 > .
 > In fact, it looks like whatever the left wants it to look like because
 > they will have total power and complete control…over you, your finances,
 > your property, your movement, your health, your body, your children,
 > EVERYTHING!

**You fucking moron. That's what Trump has already done!

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/24/1102305878/supreme-court-abortion-roe-v-wade-decision-overturn

 > .
 > Elon gets it. “Saving democracy” looks exactly like totalitarianism.

**Elon sees that the Trumpists will cut taxes for the rich. No one is 
richer than Musk, so he supports Trump. He will become richer under Trump.

 >
 >
 > communismsurvivor <https://www.instagram.com/communismsurvivor/>
 >
 > .........................................................
 >
 > now you know why they opened the Southern border.

**Did they? When. Be precise in your response you fucking moron.

Read EVERY SINGLE WORD of my cites, BEFORE you attempt to reply.

Fuck me, you are a moron.

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Re: OT: US politics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-10-03 19:52 +1000
  Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 09:52 +1000
    Re: OT: US politics Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-04 10:42 +1000
      Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 14:56 +1000
        Re: OT: US politics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-10-04 16:18 +1000
          Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 16:50 +1000
            Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 20:02 +1000
              Re: OT: US politics Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 08:19 +1000
            Re: OT: US politics Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2024-10-05 07:31 +1000
              Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 07:46 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-10-05 11:13 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 13:28 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-05 14:14 +1000
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                Re: OT: US politics Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-10-05 22:36 +1000
                Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 05:39 +1100
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                Re: OT: US politics "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 13:55 +1100
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