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Re: Searching for files

From	"Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject	Re: Searching for files
Date	2025-01-20 09:29 -0600
Organization	i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 07:45:01 -0600, Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> wrote:

>     I don't remember a time when Windows search was worth
> trying. Today they're trying to turn it into a shopping helper,
> but I started using Agent Ransack with XP, too. I did it because
> Windows search was undependable and couldn't look inside
> CAB files. CAB files, a Microsoft standard format, contain a
> file list in plain text. It wasn't unusual to install some kind of
> hardware and have Windows tell me it needs xyz.dll, which I
> would then search the install CABs to find. But as I recall, even
> the file search was shit (and came with that annoying puppy
> cartoon).
>
>    I never tried Windows search again. It's one of the first things
> I disable/remove, along with indexing. I don't need a feeble,
> useless tool wasting SSD writes. And Win10 search wastes a
> ridiculous amount of resources, even when it's not doing anything.
>
>    I also came across a clever little ditty to stop that. After removing
> the Search bar, turning off the service, etc, there's still a search
> process taking some 200MB RAM for no reason. If you kill it,
> Background Tasks service starts it up again! If you disable BT then
> things don't go well at all. I ended up with Windows "strobing". I
> had to get into the Registry in between dark cycles to re-enable
> BT and reboot.
>
>    (I got adventurous when I first tried installing
> Win10, figuring that I could afford to mess it up in the interest of
> science because I made disk images and was still in early tweaking
> mode. It was still a long way from being a usable system. So there
> was little to lose if I screwed up. I kind of wish now that I'd got more
> adventurous. The amount of crap in Win10/11 is amazing. The amount
> of obfuscation is amazing. Just look at the folder path to the
> SearchApp. SystemApps is about 200MB. Does any of it deserve to
> live? That's hard to know. I expect I can do without the
> "PeopleExeprienceHost" and dozens of other things, but I had to
> stop digging sometime.)
>
>    The following, run as a BAT file, kills search, then immediately
> renames the folder. So when BT tries to restart it, it's gone. :)
>
> taskkill /f /im SearchApp.exe
> timeout /T 1
> move %windir%\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy
> %windir%\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy.old
>
> (The last bit starting with move is all one line.)
>

I appreciate the BAT file to kill the Search App.

My problem has been that the Windows Search Service didn't always remain disabled.
In the past, I had the same problem with the Device Management WAP Push message Routing Service.
Back then, Paul posted the command to delete that service, so I decided to do the same with the Windows Search Service.

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Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-18 20:06 +0200
  Re: Searching for files D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-01-18 18:47 +0000
    Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 08:32 +0200
      Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-20 04:45 -0500
      Re: Searching for files D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-01-20 13:19 +0000
      Re: Searching for files Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 08:45 -0500
        Re: Searching for files "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-01-20 09:29 -0600
          Re: Searching for files Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 13:33 -0500
            Re: Searching for files "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-01-20 14:01 -0600
          Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-20 15:45 -0500
  Re: Searching for files Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-18 13:56 -0500
  Re: Searching for files Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-01-18 19:58 +0100
  Re: Searching for files Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-18 14:01 -0500
    Re: Searching for files VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-19 00:50 -0600
      Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 08:34 +0200
        Re: Searching for files VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-20 06:16 -0600
        Re: Searching for files Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-22 19:57 -0500
          Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-22 23:49 -0500
          Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-02-21 03:18 +0200
            Re: Searching for files Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-02-24 13:50 -0500
              Re: Searching for files Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-24 22:01 +0000
                Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-24 18:34 -0500
                Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-02-25 05:39 +0200
                Re: Searching for files GlowingBlueMist <zapbot@truely.invalid> - 2025-02-25 17:16 -0600
                Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-02-26 10:30 +0200
                Re: Searching for files ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 11:49 -0700
                Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-25 22:39 -0500
                Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-02-26 06:02 +0200
                Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-26 00:32 -0500
  Re: Searching for files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 14:30 -0500
  Re: Searching for files Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-18 13:49 -0600
  Re: Searching for files "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-18 21:39 +0100
  Re: Searching for files Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-01-18 21:44 +0100
    Re: Searching for files Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-20 03:38 +0000
  Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-18 18:00 -0500
  Re: Searching for files Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2025-01-19 02:10 +0300
  Re: Searching for files Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-01-18 18:17 -0600
  Off-topic: X-No-Archive header (was: Searching for files) VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-19 01:00 -0600
    Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-20 03:22 +0000
      Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-01-20 09:13 +0000
    Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header (was: Searching for files) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 09:00 +0200
      Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-20 06:31 -0600
  Re: Searching for files wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-19 09:36 +0000
    Re: Searching for files Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 08:29 -0500
    Re: Searching for files Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-01-19 17:48 +0100
  Re: Searching for files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-19 11:05 +0000
    Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 08:43 -0500
    Re: Searching for files Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2025-01-19 09:43 -0700
      Re: Searching for files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 14:06 -0500
        Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 15:12 -0500
        Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 08:57 +0200
          Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-20 05:37 -0500
            Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 17:50 +0200
              Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-20 14:09 -0500

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