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Re: Searching for files

From Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Searching for files
Date 2025-01-20 08:45 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 1/20/2025 1:32 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:

>> been using agent ransack since xp days . . .
>>
>> https://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/
> 
> Yes, I might have to instal that.
> 
> But when the operating system disables basic operations that it used
> to include, and wastes one's time with stpid bells and whistles, one
> starts looking for pirate versions of the old ones that did work.
> 

    I don't remember a time when Windows search was worth
trying. Today they're trying to turn it into a shopping helper,
but I started using Agent Ransack with XP, too. I did it because
Windows search was undependable and couldn't look inside
CAB files. CAB files, a Microsoft standard format, contain a
file list in plain text. It wasn't unusual to install some kind of
hardware and have Windows tell me it needs xyz.dll, which I
would then search the install CABs to find. But as I recall, even
the file search was shit (and came with that annoying puppy
cartoon).

   I never tried Windows search again. It's one of the first things
I disable/remove, along with indexing. I don't need a feeble,
useless tool wasting SSD writes. And Win10 search wastes a
ridiculous amount of resources, even when it's not doing anything.

   I also came across a clever little ditty to stop that. After removing
the Search bar, turning off the service, etc, there's still a search
process taking some 200MB RAM for no reason. If you kill it,
Background Tasks service starts it up again! If you disable BT then
things don't go well at all. I ended up with Windows "strobing". I
had to get into the Registry in between dark cycles to re-enable
BT and reboot.

   (I got adventurous when I first tried installing
Win10, figuring that I could afford to mess it up in the interest of
science because I made disk images and was still in early tweaking
mode. It was still a long way from being a usable system. So there
was little to lose if I screwed up. I kind of wish now that I'd got more
adventurous. The amount of crap in Win10/11 is amazing. The amount
of obfuscation is amazing. Just look at the folder path to the
SearchApp. SystemApps is about 200MB. Does any of it deserve to
live? That's hard to know. I expect I can do without the
"PeopleExeprienceHost" and dozens of other things, but I had to
stop digging sometime.)

   The following, run as a BAT file, kills search, then immediately
renames the folder. So when BT tries to restart it, it's gone. :)

taskkill /f /im SearchApp.exe
timeout /T 1
move %windir%\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy 
%windir%\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Search_cw5n1h2txyewy.old

(The last bit starting with move is all one line.)

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Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-18 20:06 +0200
  Re: Searching for files D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-01-18 18:47 +0000
    Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 08:32 +0200
      Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-20 04:45 -0500
      Re: Searching for files D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-01-20 13:19 +0000
      Re: Searching for files Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 08:45 -0500
        Re: Searching for files "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-01-20 09:29 -0600
          Re: Searching for files Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-20 13:33 -0500
            Re: Searching for files "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> - 2025-01-20 14:01 -0600
          Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-20 15:45 -0500
  Re: Searching for files Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-18 13:56 -0500
  Re: Searching for files Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-01-18 19:58 +0100
  Re: Searching for files Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-18 14:01 -0500
    Re: Searching for files VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-19 00:50 -0600
      Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 08:34 +0200
        Re: Searching for files VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-20 06:16 -0600
        Re: Searching for files Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-01-22 19:57 -0500
          Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-22 23:49 -0500
          Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-02-21 03:18 +0200
            Re: Searching for files Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-02-24 13:50 -0500
              Re: Searching for files Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-24 22:01 +0000
                Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-24 18:34 -0500
                Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-02-25 05:39 +0200
                Re: Searching for files GlowingBlueMist <zapbot@truely.invalid> - 2025-02-25 17:16 -0600
                Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-02-26 10:30 +0200
                Re: Searching for files ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 11:49 -0700
                Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-25 22:39 -0500
                Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-02-26 06:02 +0200
                Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-26 00:32 -0500
  Re: Searching for files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 14:30 -0500
  Re: Searching for files Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-18 13:49 -0600
  Re: Searching for files "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-18 21:39 +0100
  Re: Searching for files Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-01-18 21:44 +0100
    Re: Searching for files Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-20 03:38 +0000
  Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-18 18:00 -0500
  Re: Searching for files Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2025-01-19 02:10 +0300
  Re: Searching for files Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-01-18 18:17 -0600
  Off-topic: X-No-Archive header (was: Searching for files) VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-19 01:00 -0600
    Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-20 03:22 +0000
      Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-01-20 09:13 +0000
    Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header (was: Searching for files) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 09:00 +0200
      Re: Off-topic: X-No-Archive header VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-20 06:31 -0600
  Re: Searching for files wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-19 09:36 +0000
    Re: Searching for files Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 08:29 -0500
    Re: Searching for files Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-01-19 17:48 +0100
  Re: Searching for files Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-19 11:05 +0000
    Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 08:43 -0500
    Re: Searching for files Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2025-01-19 09:43 -0700
      Re: Searching for files knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 14:06 -0500
        Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-19 15:12 -0500
        Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 08:57 +0200
          Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-20 05:37 -0500
            Re: Searching for files Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-20 17:50 +0200
              Re: Searching for files Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-20 14:09 -0500

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