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Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too?

From	"Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.comp.microsoft.windows
Subject	Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too?
Date	2022-02-27 07:10 +1100
Message-ID	<op.1h7rnutqdsjozi@pvr2.lan> (permalink)
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:34:16 +1100, Peter  
<occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> wrote:

> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>
>> Apple nor any other company has the legitimation to enforce anything on
>> other people's property.
>>
>> If they try it is a criminal offense.
>
> If it were criminal to force a login into the iCloud, they'd be sued.

You aren't foced to login to the iCloud.

> And if it were criminal to disable an iOS device for using VPN,

Apple doesn't do that.

> they'd be
> sued.
>
> It's not criminal.
> Apple can and does disable your device for any reason Apple chooses.

In fact they only disable your device if it appears to be or has been  
claimed to be,, stolen.

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Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-20 16:06 -0500
  Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-21 00:28 +0100
    Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 21:57 -0500
      Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 04:46 +0000
      Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-21 07:41 +0100
        Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-21 08:34 -0500
          Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2022-02-22 04:53 +0000
            Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2022-02-22 19:29 +1300
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 02:30 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 09:55 +0100
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2022-02-22 08:13 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 14:21 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 12:05 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 21:35 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 15:40 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 21:51 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-22 15:56 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-23 14:20 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2022-02-23 17:56 +1300
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-23 06:34 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-23 16:48 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-23 16:45 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Rex Jones" <w@dsdkle.com> - 2022-02-24 05:21 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-24 17:18 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> - 2022-02-25 17:15 -0800
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-26 12:28 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-23 14:23 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-23 06:37 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-02-23 17:31 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> - 2022-02-25 17:14 -0800
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-26 12:21 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> - 2022-02-25 17:25 -0800
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-26 13:24 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-26 16:01 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-27 07:07 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-26 23:06 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-27 10:17 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-27 03:54 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-27 15:32 +1100
            Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 07:32 +0100
            Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 09:19 -0500
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 16:23 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 10:44 -0500
        Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-22 05:18 +0000
          Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-22 07:37 +0100
            Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-22 08:32 +0000
          Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@ro4.ch> - 2022-02-22 09:43 -0500
            Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2022-02-23 09:53 +1300
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-23 17:10 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-02-24 05:39 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-26 11:19 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-26 16:34 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-26 11:45 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-27 16:03 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Jacob Jones" <jkj33@gmail.com> - 2022-02-27 07:10 +1100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-26 16:09 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-28 15:27 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2022-02-27 10:25 +1300
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-27 10:22 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-28 10:37 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-28 16:04 +0000
          Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2022-02-23 09:04 -0500
            Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@R04.CH> - 2022-02-23 03:24 -0500
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-23 17:05 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2022-02-24 05:34 +1100
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-23 19:25 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@R04.CH> - 2022-02-23 16:06 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? allen <allen@spam.com> - 2022-02-23 15:22 -0800
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2022-02-24 10:42 +1300
            Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-23 16:59 +0000
              Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@R04.CH> - 2022-02-23 12:13 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Peter <occassionally-confused@nospam.co.uk> - 2022-02-23 17:39 +0000
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-23 21:58 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-24 07:19 +0100
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2022-02-24 01:33 -0500
                Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-24 17:04 +0000
      Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-21 07:46 +0100
  Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> - 2022-02-20 21:47 -0500
    Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-02-21 07:43 +0100
      Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 21:39 +0000
  Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> - 2022-02-21 04:19 +0000

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