Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy?

From	Serg io <invalid@invalid.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy?
Date	2017-09-06 14:24 -0500
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On 9/6/2017 2:20 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/6/17 2:08 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 9/6/17 11:12 AM, john wrote:
>>
>>>> I still find it funny that not even a magnetic field surrounding
>>>> galactic star arms makes you believe they are real.
>>
>>> John, here you are making up shit again. No one has ever said that
>>> galactic arms aren't real. Ocean waves are real too, and the water from
>>> one wave migrates to the next. What is clearly wrong is your claim that
>>> galactic arms are PERMANENT, not intermixed, isolated from each other
>>> and from everything else in the galaxy,
>>
>>> Do you understand that water waves don't have to be permanent,
>>> un-intermixed, and isolated from each other to be real?
>>
>>> Do you understand that galactic arms don't have to be permanent,
>>> un-intermixed, and isolated from each other to be real?
>>
>> Hey John, check out this animation that shows how galactic spiral arms
>> can be standing waves.  The animation starts with a bunch of things
>> orbiting a common center, the orbits pulled into ellipses and the
>> ellipse axes rotated according to distance.  Presto - a two armed
>> spiral galaxy!
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMReQ6hVw5s
>>
>> Someone drew it, so it must be real.
>>
> 
> And this one, which shows how good the dynamical simulations really are, 
> comparing them to observational cases.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0XNyTp5brM
> 
> John, compare this professional simulation from the HST team with your 
> CAD program animations.
> 

amazing how 'complexity' comes from  'simple'

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Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-09-04 04:24 -0700
  Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 13:23 +0000
    Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-09-04 06:41 -0700
      Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 14:44 -0500
        Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 12:52 -0700
          Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 00:26 +0000
          Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-05 15:50 +0000
            Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 09:56 -0700
              Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-05 17:12 +0000
                Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 12:37 -0700
                Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-05 20:17 +0000
                Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:38 -0500
                Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 09:12 -0700
                Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 12:49 -0500
                Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-06 19:08 +0000
                Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 14:20 -0500
                Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-06 14:24 -0500
                Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 12:27 -0700
                Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 14:49 -0500
                Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 15:00 -0500
                Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-07 19:51 +0000
  Re: The British use the word "dark" when they mean "unseen". pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-09-04 18:03 -0700
  Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 06:26 -0700
    Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? alal65536@gmail.com - 2017-09-06 22:08 -0700
      Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 15:25 -0500
      Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 08:47 -0700
        Re: Christianity is wrong, but useful. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-11 18:08 -0400
          Re: Christianity is wrong, but useful. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-09-12 14:15 +0000
            Re: Christianity is wrong, but useful. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-09-12 07:39 -0700
  Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Simon Roberts <retenshun@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 09:28 -0700
    Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? Simon Roberts <retenshun@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 09:35 -0700
  Re: Is there any direct evidence of dark matter and dark energy? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 09:32 -0700

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