Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe
Date	2017-08-28 08:27 -0500
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On 8/27/17 7:47 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 7:49:48 AM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/26/17 7:58 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 7:46:13 AM UTC+10, benj wrote:
>>>> On 8/26/2017 10:34 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 6:49:55 AM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/25/17 3:33 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 5:53:27 AM UTC+10, john wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ari
>>>>>>>>> I fail to understand how you can have X atoms in a quantity of water,
>>>>>>>>> then dilute it by 10, and still have X atoms in all 10 containers, but
>>>>>>>>> just smaller. Can you explain?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am saying that you have pure water in 10 containers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have 1 oontainer with X atoms in say 1000cc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You take 1 cc of the solution.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In which case you have .001X atoms in it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you put 0.001X atoms in one of the 10 containers the numbers multiply
>>>>>>>> so that you have X atoms there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But each is now one thousand times smaller.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just a theory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A theory makes testable quantitative predictions which distinguish
>>>>>>> itself from other competing theories. You do not have that yet, so what
>>>>>>> you have is a germ of an idea, not a theory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is much better than the theory of relativity which when proposed was as
>>>>>> much bunkum as it is today.  SR predicted nothing. It still predicts nothing
>>>>>> as it is bullshit but it is the most highly regarded theory in modern physics.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, unfortunately, a lot of experimental evidence in full agreement with
>>>>> firm predictions of relativity can't be denied with any credibility.
>>>
>>> Rubbish. The only thing they think they can show is the invariance of the speed
>>> of light from the MMI experiment.
>>
>> If you believe the experimental basis of relativity rests on the
>> Michelson Morley experiment, then you have a very, very, very poor
>> understanding of relativity and the experimental basis for it.
> 
> Stick to making your toys.

Isn't it amazing that a woodworker knows more about the experimental 
basis of relativity than you do? I think that's pretty amazing.


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 16:40 -0700
  Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 19:42 -0700
    Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 05:07 -0700
      Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-24 17:47 -0400
        Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 15:50 -0700
          Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-24 19:35 -0400
            Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 01:07 -0700
              Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 11:32 +0000
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 04:39 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 12:06 +0000
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 05:24 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 08:21 -0500
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-28 06:13 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 09:00 -0500
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 12:53 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 15:25 -0500
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 13:36 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 15:47 -0500
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-26 15:42 +0200
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 13:33 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 15:49 -0500
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 06:43 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 14:34 +0000
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 10:52 -0500
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 03:38 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 16:48 -0500
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 17:52 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-28 03:08 +0000
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 03:06 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 08:26 -0500
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-28 14:38 -0500
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-28 17:32 -0400
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 15:38 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-28 21:20 -0400
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 19:03 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-29 22:54 -0400
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 21:53 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-29 10:50 -0500
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 18:33 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 16:49 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 16:59 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 17:13 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-28 21:42 -0400
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 19:09 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-28 22:28 -0400
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 15:47 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-30 18:56 -0500
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 21:14 -0400
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 21:11 -0400
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 19:21 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-30 23:26 -0400
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-31 15:04 -0500
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 18:50 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-31 22:44 -0400
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-09-01 03:00 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-09-01 12:55 -0500
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 12:02 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 18:17 -0400
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 15:51 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 21:36 -0400
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-09-01 17:56 -0400
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 06:25 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 00:24 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-28 21:40 -0400
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 04:34 -0700
                Re: Matter is like knots in the hair of aether as the soup filling the infinite universe benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-28 21:36 -0400
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