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Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding
Date 2017-08-21 11:43 +0000
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<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> W dniu poniedziałek, 21 sierpnia 2017 04:33:49 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 4:09:22 PM UTC-4, Ed Lake wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> mathematicians will endlessly argue that light is waves.  
>>>> 
>>>> Nope. Mathematicians care less what light is. No mathematicians say thats
>>>> its a particle, and none say that its a wave. Physicist thought,*model*
>>>> light as a particle or wave, depending on their needs. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> And actually physicists model light as a quantum field, which is a third
>>> kind of animal, distinct from both the classical senses of particle and
>>> wave. And it turns out actually that every real thing is better modeled as
>>> a quantum field than as a classical wave or a classical particle, but some
>>> creaky-minded folks have a hard time letting go of the latter concepts.
>>> When a particle physicist or a theorist says that light is a particle, they
>>> are connoting the quantum field, not a classical particle. Same goes for
>>> electrons or deuterons or pineapples. 
>>> 
>> 
>> But it has to be said that there are science writers and professional
>> physicists writing popularization who use sloppy and archaic language even
>> today, talking about "particle-wave duality" and "sometimes light is a wave
>> and sometimes it's a particle". 
> 
> They should stop immediately. Common mortals
> don't need any info. All they need to know is that
> gurus are incredibly wise and that they demand
> obedience and funds.
> 

If this is about funds, I vote to put people in office who will be
custodians of public funds, and then scientists compete for those funds. I
don't think there are scientists who demand much of anything, including
obedience or funds. 

I take it you have a problem with the public fund scheme. So vote it out.  

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-18 08:50 -0700
  Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-18 09:15 -0700
    Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-18 09:45 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-18 13:00 -0700
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 06:48 -0700
  Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-18 13:52 -0700
    Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 05:50 -0700
    Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 06:50 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 07:52 -0700
  Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 02:19 -0700
    Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 07:07 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 07:58 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 08:01 -0700
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 08:08 -0700
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 08:09 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 08:14 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 08:39 -0700
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 08:54 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 08:59 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 09:06 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 12:48 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 12:55 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 13:17 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 13:26 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 13:51 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 13:59 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 14:14 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 14:38 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 08:26 -0700
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 08:27 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 09:54 -0700
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 10:17 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 10:46 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 12:08 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 13:11 -0700
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 14:20 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 14:37 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 14:58 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 15:09 -0700
  Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-19 13:21 +0200
    Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 07:19 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 19:19 +0000
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-22 16:19 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-22 16:26 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 23:35 +0000
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-22 17:15 -0700
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 01:34 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-22 22:02 -0400
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 09:12 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-23 12:26 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-23 10:40 +0200
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-23 07:43 -0700
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-23 16:54 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-23 08:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-23 18:04 +0200
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 10:37 -0500
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 10:38 -0500
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-23 19:45 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 12:56 -0500
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 11:58 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-24 09:22 -0700
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Youko Ganchiku <uckyoku@ghnwohwkwu.gi> - 2017-08-24 16:26 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-24 10:02 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 12:08 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Youko Ganchiku <uckyoku@ghnwohwkwu.gi> - 2017-08-24 17:47 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-24 12:59 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Youko Ganchiku <uckyoku@ghnwohwkwu.gi> - 2017-08-24 20:30 +0000
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 09:10 -0500
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-23 12:21 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-24 06:03 -0700
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 10:27 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-26 06:51 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-19 21:57 +0200
  Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-19 08:46 -0700
    Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 08:52 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-19 09:03 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 12:31 -0700
    Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 08:56 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-19 09:04 -0700
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 09:36 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 09:46 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 10:01 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-19 10:45 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-19 12:58 -0500
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 12:35 -0700
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 13:22 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 13:37 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 21:06 +0000
  Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-19 12:03 -0500
    Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 11:04 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-19 12:11 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 13:10 -0700
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 13:47 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 14:05 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 14:44 -0700
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 15:08 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-20 09:25 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 10:32 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 18:42 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-20 13:09 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 19:13 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 02:29 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 02:33 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-20 23:25 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 11:43 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-21 05:07 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-21 06:46 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-21 06:48 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-21 07:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-21 07:21 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-08 15:40 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 09:41 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-21 09:58 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 22:03 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 16:12 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 06:50 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 07:09 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 13:51 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 17:34 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 07:10 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 09:24 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-20 14:59 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-21 07:09 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding anne <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 07:19 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-21 07:26 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-21 07:37 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding anne <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 08:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-21 18:04 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-21 17:39 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 07:22 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 08:38 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 09:05 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 18:55 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-23 07:25 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 10:52 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 11:53 -0700
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 22:47 +0000
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-19 14:16 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 14:49 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-19 22:47 +0000
    Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-13 09:44 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-13 19:02 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-14 20:32 -0500
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Luigi Vassel <sual@wgewvisswsi.ai> - 2017-09-15 10:30 +0000
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-15 17:49 -0700
  Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-21 13:45 -0700
    Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-21 13:55 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-21 14:05 -0700
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-21 14:06 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-21 14:15 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-22 10:05 +0200
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 07:25 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 08:25 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 11:57 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-22 10:21 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-23 00:03 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Séverin Thibault <ruud@bwiu.ei> - 2017-08-23 08:54 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-23 07:04 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-23 21:41 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-23 13:41 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 16:42 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-23 15:31 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding anne <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 16:10 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-24 07:14 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-24 08:09 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-24 10:33 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-08-28 11:51 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-24 16:06 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-24 08:17 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-24 23:28 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-24 23:25 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-25 08:13 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-25 08:39 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Youko Ganchiku <uckyoku@ghnwohwkwu.gi> - 2017-08-25 15:51 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-25 08:53 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-25 08:57 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-25 09:08 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-25 09:17 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-25 09:36 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-25 10:20 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-25 13:03 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 15:21 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-25 13:45 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-26 07:01 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 14:34 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-26 11:15 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 14:29 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-27 07:12 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 18:13 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-25 14:34 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-25 14:41 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-25 14:12 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-25 14:34 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-25 14:44 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-25 16:53 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-25 15:20 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-26 07:38 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-26 09:12 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-26 12:49 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-26 13:44 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-26 14:33 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-26 15:23 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2017-08-26 15:50 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-26 23:15 -0400
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-27 08:46 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 11:20 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-27 13:28 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 14:14 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-26 17:07 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-27 09:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 18:13 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-27 21:20 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-27 13:07 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-08-27 20:17 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 00:27 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-08-27 07:07 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-27 08:12 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 18:13 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-26 23:09 -0400
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-27 08:08 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-27 09:34 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-26 14:14 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-08-26 16:33 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-27 08:55 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-08-27 08:58 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-27 09:43 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-27 10:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-27 21:28 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-08-27 12:47 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-27 13:02 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-08-27 20:23 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-27 13:23 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-27 13:29 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-27 13:41 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-08-28 06:36 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 08:44 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-28 18:45 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-27 22:46 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-25 23:47 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-25 18:15 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-25 09:28 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 15:51 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-27 23:17 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-25 10:32 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2017-08-23 16:20 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-08-22 19:42 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 13:32 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 15:47 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Séverin Thibault <ruud@bwiu.ei> - 2017-08-22 20:53 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Séverin Thibault <ruud@bwiu.ei> - 2017-08-22 21:01 +0000
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-22 10:49 +0200
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-22 02:47 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-22 11:57 +0200
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-22 03:09 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-22 15:59 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-22 08:34 -0700
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 07:35 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-22 16:55 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-22 08:31 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 08:32 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-22 18:17 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 09:30 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 07:28 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-22 07:37 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 08:43 -0700
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 09:25 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 11:54 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 19:16 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 19:14 -0700
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-22 09:26 -0700
  Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 09:53 -0700
    Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 12:04 -0500
    Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-22 19:04 +0200
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 12:13 -0500
    Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-22 20:29 +0200
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-22 13:53 -0700
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 16:19 -0500
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-22 19:20 -0700
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-23 15:05 +0200
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-23 07:50 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-23 20:24 +0200
  Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-24 08:36 -0700
  Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-08-26 10:23 -0700
    Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-26 13:11 -0700
      Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-26 18:01 -0700
        Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-27 09:12 -0700
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-27 18:13 +0000
          Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-27 11:16 -0700
            Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-27 12:51 -0700
              Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-27 14:41 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-28 07:53 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-28 08:45 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-28 08:58 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-08-28 09:47 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-28 09:54 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-28 09:57 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-08-28 10:30 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-28 10:42 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-28 10:45 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-08-28 15:03 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-29 00:34 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-29 01:17 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-29 07:14 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-08-29 10:23 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-29 10:46 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-29 14:02 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-01 01:16 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 13:37 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-28 18:55 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-28 10:21 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-28 13:42 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-28 14:29 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-28 16:34 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-28 16:05 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-29 08:15 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-29 09:27 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-29 13:17 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-29 14:31 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-29 15:05 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-29 15:57 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-30 07:38 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 07:57 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-30 08:11 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-30 08:24 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 08:50 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-30 08:51 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 09:24 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-30 09:37 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 09:49 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-30 10:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-01 01:21 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-30 08:52 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-30 09:34 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-30 18:47 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 09:56 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-30 10:03 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-30 14:58 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-31 06:52 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-31 16:07 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 14:35 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-01 07:33 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 11:48 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-01 13:26 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-01 13:38 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 15:47 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 17:28 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-02 08:09 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-09-02 18:49 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-02 09:57 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 10:18 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 14:48 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-08-31 10:56 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-30 11:47 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-30 13:36 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-30 13:52 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-30 14:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-30 14:09 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-30 14:12 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-30 14:22 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-31 07:16 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-31 11:13 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 14:07 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 14:40 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-01 07:43 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 11:56 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-31 12:26 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-08-31 22:02 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-31 13:06 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-08-31 14:24 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 16:44 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-08-31 18:07 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-01 08:13 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-09-01 17:29 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-09-01 09:44 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-01 10:02 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-01 13:11 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 15:42 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-09-01 14:19 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-02 07:47 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 15:56 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-09-02 09:54 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-09-02 20:34 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-02 12:48 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 20:04 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-03 02:33 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 13:13 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-03 07:01 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 08:18 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-03 09:15 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 09:28 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-09-02 15:24 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-03 08:27 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-09-03 10:29 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-09-03 20:34 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-03 12:55 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-09-03 22:53 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 22:55 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-09-03 18:18 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-04 08:22 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-09-04 11:22 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-04 12:07 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-09-04 14:01 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-04 14:31 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 14:55 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-04 15:06 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-05 07:26 -0700
                Autistic imbecile Ed lake promises to stop spamming "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-09-05 07:42 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 16:10 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-05 18:43 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-04 18:12 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-04 19:02 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ethel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> - 2017-09-05 11:26 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-05 07:53 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-09-05 08:02 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-09-05 12:14 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-05 13:48 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:38 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 10:50 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-05 13:58 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 16:09 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-05 20:13 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 08:55 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-06 16:33 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-06 16:54 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-06 19:45 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 15:47 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-07 18:15 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 08:18 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-08 14:46 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 16:15 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-08 20:44 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-09 02:07 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-09-04 16:40 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-04 18:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-05 08:24 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-09-05 10:07 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-05 13:40 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-09-05 22:50 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-09-05 14:12 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-05 14:51 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-04 18:59 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-05 08:34 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-05 15:44 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-04 18:55 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-09-02 13:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-02 13:45 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-09-02 14:07 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-03 15:06 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-03 09:49 -0700
                Ed Lake, as cretin as Ken Shito "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-09-03 09:56 -0700
                Ed Lake, as cretin as Ken Shito "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-03 10:01 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-03 10:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-03 10:47 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-04 14:25 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-04 09:04 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-04 09:15 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-04 21:46 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-04 13:42 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-04 16:00 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-04 14:04 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-04 18:46 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-05 08:27 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-09-05 15:35 -0500
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2017-09-05 15:23 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-05 08:58 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-09-05 09:26 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding "David (Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-05 09:24 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-09-01 19:56 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 12:12 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-01 13:38 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-09-01 23:03 +0200
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 17:51 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-02 08:26 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 10:51 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-02 13:23 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 18:32 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-03 09:18 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 10:32 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-03 10:37 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 11:00 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-03 11:56 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 12:13 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-03 12:24 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 04:53 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-04 05:55 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-03 13:28 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-03 13:55 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 14:54 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-04 07:35 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-04 10:56 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Béèku Mická <bmik@owjfns.gh> - 2017-09-08 09:21 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 15:11 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-04 23:14 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ethel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> - 2017-09-05 11:21 +0000
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-05 07:34 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 10:37 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-05 10:58 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-09-05 11:58 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-05 12:44 -0700
                Re: Pentcho Valev's biggest misunderstanding Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-05 13:52 -0700

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