Re: I figured out charge

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: I figured out charge
Date	2017-08-16 16:13 -0500
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On 8/16/17 9:51 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/16/17 8:25 AM, john wrote:
>> Odd
>> from
>> https://www.google.ca/amp/s/phys.org/news/2017-01-stars-halo-milky-groups.amp 
>>
>> The team of astronomers were bewildered of the beaviour of halo stars 
>> that spend most of the time in the outskirts of the Milky Way. 
>> Surprisingly more than 70% of those stars appear to be moving in the 
>> opposite sense than the vast majority of stars in the Milky Way. Such 
>> a high fraction is unexpected in current models. Helmi: "One may 
>> compare stars from the outer halo with commuters that drive the wrong 
>> way. We do not yet quite understand why."
>>
>> THEY may not understand why.
>> But  AYE have a model.
>> Every time the disk PRECESSES around, the rotation is OPPOSITE
>>   http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/NeonAnimation.GIF
>>
>> THEY don't understand because they don't have a model.
>>
> 
> Why didn't you quote the rest of the article that DOES talk about their 
> model about why this happens?
> 
> "The Milky Way, our own Galaxy, has likely formed in part from the 
> merging of many smaller systems.... To learn more about the history of 
> formation of the Milky Way, astronomers ... have inspected the motions 
> of stars in the so-called Galactic halo. Stars in the halo are more 
> pristine and spend most of their time outside of the disk-like structure 
> that gives the Milky Way its name. It is thought that these halo stars 
> are the stars that joined the Milky Way onboard of small galaxies.
> ... Helmi: "This indicates that the stars indeed originate from small 
> galaxies that were cannibalised by the Milky Way a very long time ago". 
> The astronomers describe these groups as large flows of stars like 
> flocks of birds traveling together through the Milky Way. "We believe 
> there might be tens or even hundreds such flocks. At the moment, we only 
> see small groups with just a few stars, but that is probably because we 
> do not yet have all the necessary data".
> 
> This model features a Milky Way that formed in stages rather than all at 
> once, incorporating smaller clusters that now retain some of their 
> original motions. This model accounts for the different ages of stars in 
> the layered structure of the halo, as well as accounts for the "flocks" 
> of stars that have differential motion compared to the rest of the galaxy.
> 
> Why is it that you just don't SEE this stuff when you read it? Do you 
> just look for the sentences that include "don't understand" or 
> "bewildered"?
> 

John, just a follow-up to this.

I know you would dearly love to have an idea that might be interesting 
in an area where physicists have just tossed up their hands and are 
saying, "We have no idea." It's like an amateur astronomer discovering a 
new comet or a new galaxy.

The chief challenge you face is that a lot of things that you think are 
completely unexplained are just not that way, and in just about every 
case you've raised up, there is already a pretty good sense of what's 
going on.

This isn't to say that there aren't open questions in physics. But you 
don't know what they are. And because you have read so little, and what 
you do read you read thinly, you're not making much headway in figuring 
out where they are. It's like an amateur astronomer looking up in the 
sky and seeing a comet that HE hasn't seen before and claiming, "Aha! A 
new comet, never before seen!" when in fact it is already logged in 
observational catalogs.

Your unfortunate reaction so far has been to say, "Well, physicists 
CLAIM it's not new ground, but their explanation makes no sense to me, 
and so as far as I'm concerned it's not explained and so is new ground." 
That's an emotional response, not a rational one.

What you COULD do is decide to find out what PHYSICISTS acknowledge are 
the open questions, so that you can start thinking about the answers to 
those. But to do that, you'd have to learn some physics, which involves 
studying and reading. The thing you have to remember that when an 
amateur discovers a new comet or a new galaxy, that amateur has studied 
the professional data deeply enough to know whether it is new or not.

Or you can take the approach of Henry Wilson who says that no data 
accumulated by physicists in the last 100 years is reliable, it's all 
too close to the edge to be convincing, and that experimentalists have 
only observed what they wanted to observe. This denial of evidence is 
not something I hope you do.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 15:23 +0000
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                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 18:01 -0500
                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:01 +0000
                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 10:42 -0500
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