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Re: I figured out charge

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: I figured out charge
Date 2017-08-16 09:45 -0500
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On 8/16/17 8:10 AM, john wrote:
> ed
> "
>>
>> I rest my case
> 
> Good. "
> 
> ed, the problem with the Standard "Model" is that it is just bean-counting.
> You only add parts by observation.
> You don't do logic.
> You have no vision.

First of all, vision is a conjecture. Do not confuse conjecture with 
logic. Saying, "There are five observed layers of complexity in matter, 
and therefore there are an infinite number of layers of complexity," is 
NOT LOGIC. It is purely conjecture.

> It's not a model- its bean-counting.
> 
> The POINT of Physics is to find useful tools that will allow us to EXTRAPOLATE. 

Completely agree! And it is natural for human beings to take a handful 
of observations and to try to make a general rule out of them. This is a 
biological survival strategy. This is how we came up with ideas like 
"momentum is mass times velocity" and "mammals give live birth to their 
young".

The problem is then declaring such extrapolations PROVEN by "logic". 
They are not proven. They are ALWAYS conjectures, which then have to be 
put to test, over and over and over again. And when we find out that 
there seems to be an exception to conjectured extrapolation, then the 
extrapolated rule is proved not to be a rule at all, or is a rule only 
under certain circumstances.

It's this testing against observational evidence over and over and over 
again that you do not wish to do, John. You're enamored with the 
extrapolation but couldn't be bothered with the test. And this is what 
makes you unscientific.

> It's not possible to see past a certain distance oy smaller than a certain size.
> What then, with your bean-counting?
> No more work for you bean-counters that REFUSE to use logic and insight.
> 
> You call that Science?
> Really?

See above. Really.

> 
> I HAVE a model.
> It equates galaxies with atoms.
> It PREDICTS things, and EXPLAINS observations

And it also predicts OTHER THINGS that are counter to evidence, and 
therefore the model is WRONG. Period, end of story. It does not MATTER 
what things it gets right. It matters when it gets things WRONG. This is 
how science works, whether you like it or not.

> like the spherical halo, and where the 3rd Benzene electrons go, and how galactic discs are precessing to skew the galactic rotation curves.
> 
> YOU spew nonsense- AND ITS NOT EVEN YOUR OWN!!! Laughable, how you can believe all that no-structure, no-pathway, no volume, no detail shit.
> 
> But every time you say that planets "curve" spacetime, a zillion aliens ROTFL
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 10:24 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:39 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 12:10 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 12:47 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:28 -0500
                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:27 -0500
                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 12:27 -0500
                Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 11:28 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-16 15:23 +0000
                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:06 +0000
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                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:01 +0000
                Re: I figured out charge Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 10:42 -0500
                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 02:27 +0000
                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-12 19:55 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 19:59 -0700
                Re: I figured out charge john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-13 20:12 -0700
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                Re: I figured out charge moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-13 01:11 +0000
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