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Re: Waves need a medium

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Waves need a medium
Date 2017-08-08 07:47 -0500
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On 8/8/17 6:32 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 9:20:46 PM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 12:13:09 PM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 11:25:54 PM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/6/17 12:46 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>>>> Modern physicists hold that em radiation is matter following
>>>>>>> e(v)=hv where v is frequency and h is Planck's constant and e is the energy
>>>>>>> of the photon
>>>>>>> and m=e(v)/c^2  where m is the mass of the photon following Einstein's relation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modern physicists do NOT hold that the mass of the photon is m=e(v)/c^2.
>>>>>> I have no idea where you got such a stupid idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is far from stupid if you hold that
>>>>> e=mcc
>>>>> and e=hV (energy of a photon)
>>>>> If you hold these two correct then a photon MUST have mass m = hv/C^2
>>>>> which will be evident to anyone with the slightest knowledge of algebra.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course as e=mcc is false this equation for photon mass m=hv/c^2 is wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> Modern physicists are all mad as they support e=mcc.
>>>>> They are all as distorted as spacetime.
>>>>> AS they support GR they MUST associate light/photon with mass.
>>>>> They did that to "prove" GR.
>>>>> They are wrong of course.
>>>>> Their schizophrenic attitude has caused havoc to many aspects of life in the
>>>>> 20th century.  It has corrupted everything.
>>>>> Getting rid of their dogma is thus the way to go in this century.
>>>>> Down e=mcc; up e=0.5mVVN(N-k)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's just it, Arindam.
>>>> The e in e=mc^2 is not the same energy that is in e=h*nu.
>>>> If you would actually READ the references where these are discussed, you
>>>> would know that the same label "e" is being used for two completely
>>>> different quantities. And had you done that, then you wouldn't make the
>>>> foolish mistake of equating them.
>>>
>>> Both are energy e.
>>
>> No. The first is Rest Energy only. The correct expression for the total
>> energy of a particle is
>> E^2 = (mc^2)^2 + (pc)^2
> 
> 
> I was not talking about a particle.
> I was talking about a photon.

The formula above applies to photons AND other particles.

> Which has a frequency and Planck's constant too attached with it.
> The energy of a photon e = hv

Yes, the energy of the photon is described this way.

> If you see this as a particle then that is its energy.

But that is not to be equated with e=mc^2.
It is to be equated with the E in
E^2 = (mc^2)^2 + (pc)^2

For the photon, m is zero, which is what any physicist will tell you, 
but p is not zero.
So for a photon E = pc, and E = hv
So that pc=hv or p = hv/c.

You have made a silly and obvious error. Because you did not bother reading.

> 
>>
>> You have made a silly and obvious error. Because you did not bother
>> reading.
> 
> I have read enough of that nonsense.
> You are trying to twist matters with saying that I have made an error whereas
> you have confused a particle with a photon.

No, sir, it is you that has made a silly error.
I know it is hard for someone with delusions of divinity to stoop to 
confessing an error. A divine person as you imagine yourself to be is 
infallible, incapable of error, correct?

> 
>>
>>> e is the energy of a photon. And that energy is hv.
>>> Any book on quantum theory will tell you that.
>>>
>>> The photon is treated as a particle with kinetic energy as particles must have.
>>>
>>> There is no aether in quantum theory/relativity as per Einstein in 1905 and
>>> this is blindly swallowed and regurgitated by the modern physicists.
>>>
>>> The photon is a particle travelling at the speed of light according to them.
>>>
>>> It may have wave like qualities to account for refraction, diffraction,
>>> beam-forming, etc. and that follows from de Broglie's HYPOTHESIS.
>>>
>>> Now if e=mcc as per all Eisnteinian
>>> then the mass of the photon HAS to be
>>> hv/c^2
>>>
>>> Simple derivation, based upon the logic of modern physics.
>>> Wrong of course.
>>> But that is another story which is what I am writing in my Aphorisms.
>>>
>>> Sooner or later the e=mcc nonsense will be clear to all.
>>>
>>> And how its adherents use confusion, abuse, ad hom attacks to maintain their
>>> crumbling position.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>>
>>>   
>>>>
>>>> The mistake is yours, and it's a silly one born of ignorance.
> 
> Rubbish. It is mere algebra, provided you belief in that e=mcc rubbish.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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            Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 22:15 -0700
              Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 02:12 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 02:29 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 17:29 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:45 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 19:13 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:55 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 20:09 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 18:57 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-11 18:04 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 21:26 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 13:54 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-16 16:39 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-16 21:25 -0400
              Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 02:27 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 02:49 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 06:20 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 06:58 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 07:19 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 07:27 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:12 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-10 22:39 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 20:51 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-11 18:15 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-16 17:56 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 16:50 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-16 21:41 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:05 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:34 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:59 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 09:43 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium zubeneschgenubi@gmail.com - 2017-08-09 18:45 -0700
      Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 19:08 -0700
  Re: Waves need a medium "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:27 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-17 12:40 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:57 -0400
  Re: Waves need a medium raymond.yohros@gmail.com - 2017-08-17 13:51 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-17 20:57 -0700
  Re: Waves need a medium "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 12:08 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-18 14:12 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-19 21:51 -0400

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