Re: Waves need a medium

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Waves need a medium
Date	2017-08-07 08:24 -0500
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On 8/6/17 2:23 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 2:57:47 AM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 8/4/17 10:00 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:45:28 PM UTC+10, MaryK wrote:
>>>>> On 8/4/2017 9:34 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 1:18:14 AM UTC+10, Serg Io wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/3/2017 10:44 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:00:44 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>  From water waves requiring water
>>>>>>>>>  From sound waves requiring air/solid
>>>>>>>>>  From Mexican waves requiring humans
>>>>>>>>>  From vibration waves requiring a string
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since these waves require a medium, electromagnetic waves need a medium.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  From cats giving live birth to kittens
>>>>>>>>  From cows giving live birth to calves
>>>>>>>>  From Mexicans giving live birth to babies
>>>>>>>>  From dogs giving live birth to puppies
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since these mammals give live birth to offspring, platypuses need to
>>>>>>>> give live birth to their offspring.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like sharks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A wave must have a medium for otherwise it cannot progress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something has to be there for the disturbance to propagate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see how this is a more strange concept than alternate universes,
>>>>>> neutrinos, quarks, continuously distorted space-time, invariance of c, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How is the notion of the entire infinite universe getting filled with
>>>>>> infinitely small particles of solid matter more difficult to grasp, I cannot
>>>>>> understand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Electrons and protons (which make up matter) go through the aether as thin
>>>>>> steel mesh through sticky sand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, we will investigate this a bit further, in due course. How forces and
>>>>>> velocities make up the structure of the universe and that there is only one
>>>>>> force and that is electro-magnetic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> same kind of logic;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a man has two legs
>>>>>>> a monkey has two legs
>>>>>>> therefore all men are monkeys
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or descended from a common ancestor if we believe in evolution.
>>>>>> But that is not my point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A wave is a disturbance.
>>>>>> Disturbance has to have a medium for propagation.
>>>>>
>>>>> an EM wave needs no medium, it is just equations, E field and H field
>>>>
>>>> Those equations deal with the reality of the electric and magnetic fields.
>>>> Electric and magnetic field exist.
>>>
>>> Yes, they exist. They are not an aether, notice.
>>
>> They are not aether but they use aether for propagation when they vary with
>> time to create an em wave.
> 
> And what makes you think so. The laws of physics that govern electric and
> magnetic fields make no mention of any aether or its properties. In fact
> the laws dictate propagation of the fields themselves.

I hear no answer but from the crickets.

> 
>>>
>>>> To pretend they do not is dishonesty.
>>>> That we can neglect aether as the medium of propagating radiation does not
>>>> mean that it does not exist.
>>>
>>> Your supposed aether may exist, but since it is not necessary for the
>>> propagation of disturbances in electric and magnetic fields (both of
>>> which are real), then what purpose does this aether serve?
>>
>> It serves to carry them as a medium.
> 
> And since the medium is not needed for propagation, as you say yourself,
> why presume a medium is needed?

Nothing but the sound of crickets.

> 
>>
>> One way as well ask what purpose water serves for sea or river or lake transport.
>>
>> Yes, when seas dry up such transport stops.
>>
>> Such cannot be the case with aether so we take it for granted.
>>
>> As to why we need aether -
>> It is to show how energy is getting created and destroyed with force upon
>> electrons, with their inter-action with aether.
> 
> What energy creation? And what does this have to do with propagation of the
> disturbances in the fields? Don't get distracted.
> 
>>
>> Something new here, I think.
>>
>> And fundamental to my new physics. More in due course...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Arindam Banerjee
>>   
>>>> I do hope the world gets out of the stupid-ostrich benj state soon.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am talking deductive logic. Not inductive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deductive logic:
>>>>>> 1. It rained
>>>>>> 2. The streets are wet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Inductive logic:
>>>>>> 1. The streets are wet
>>>>>> 2. It rained
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So once we agree that light is a wave
>>>>>> We have to agree that light must have medium for propagation.
>>>>>> No sliming out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Eisnteinians (not all are as stupid as benj) know this,
>>>>>
>>>>> is that like a club they join?  get a newsletter ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> so they insist
>>>>>> that light is a particle at times, and a wave at another times; this
>>>>>> schizophrenic nature of light was hypothesised by one de Broglie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 16:00 -0700
  Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 18:27 -0700
  Re: Waves need a medium Mushnik <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-02 20:46 -0500
  Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-03 00:14 -0700
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      Re: Waves need a medium Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-03 12:55 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 15:18 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-03 23:08 -0700
      Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 02:38 -0700
        Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-04 07:55 -0700
          Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 19:58 -0700
  Re: Waves need a medium "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 13:26 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-03 13:37 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 04:44 -0700
      Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-04 18:08 -0400
        Re: Waves need a medium MaryK <nobody@invalid.com> - 2017-08-04 21:14 -0500
          Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-05 21:02 -0400
      Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 19:46 -0700
        Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-05 21:08 -0400
          Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-06 05:50 -0700
            Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-07 17:39 -0400
  Re: Waves need a medium moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-04 03:44 +0000
    Re: Waves need a medium Serg Io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-04 10:17 -0500
      Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 19:34 -0700
        Re: Waves need a medium MaryK <nobody@invalid.com> - 2017-08-04 21:44 -0500
          Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 20:00 -0700
            Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-04 22:24 -0700
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                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 00:53 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-05 01:13 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 04:24 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 04:26 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 11:58 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-05 21:17 -0400
              Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 04:53 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-05 05:17 -0700
            Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 11:57 -0500
              Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 22:55 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-06 08:57 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-06 19:23 +0000
                Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 08:24 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2017-08-07 14:14 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 11:25 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-08 22:26 -0700
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        Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 11:56 -0500
          Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 22:46 -0700
            Re: Waves need a medium Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-06 15:57 -0500
              Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-06 20:17 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-07 08:40 -0500
            Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 08:25 -0500
              Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 16:51 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 02:13 +0000
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-07 19:25 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 11:20 +0000
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 04:32 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 07:47 -0500
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                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 17:12 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-08 13:15 +0000
                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 06:39 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:20 -0500
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                Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 12:03 -0500
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                Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 14:43 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-08 16:24 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 03:17 +0000
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 16:27 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 23:52 +0000
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                Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 01:34 +0000
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                Re: Waves need a medium Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 01:34 +0000
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                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 22:01 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-09 11:55 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 16:31 -0700
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                Re: Waves need a medium moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-06 04:18 +0000
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                Re: Waves need a medium moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-06 04:32 +0000
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            Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 22:15 -0700
              Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 02:12 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 02:29 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 17:29 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:45 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 19:13 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:55 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 20:09 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 18:57 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-11 18:04 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 21:26 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 13:54 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-16 16:39 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-16 21:25 -0400
              Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 02:27 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 02:49 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 06:20 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 06:58 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 07:19 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 07:27 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:12 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-10 22:39 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 20:51 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-11 18:15 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-16 17:56 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 16:50 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-16 21:41 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:05 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:34 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:59 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 09:43 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium zubeneschgenubi@gmail.com - 2017-08-09 18:45 -0700
      Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 19:08 -0700
  Re: Waves need a medium "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:27 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-17 12:40 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:57 -0400
  Re: Waves need a medium raymond.yohros@gmail.com - 2017-08-17 13:51 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-17 20:57 -0700
  Re: Waves need a medium "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 12:08 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-18 14:12 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-19 21:51 -0400

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