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Re: Waves need a medium

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Waves need a medium
Date 2017-08-06 19:23 +0000
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Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 2:57:47 AM UTC+10, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/4/17 10:00 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 12:45:28 PM UTC+10, MaryK wrote:
>>>> On 8/4/2017 9:34 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 1:18:14 AM UTC+10, Serg Io wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/3/2017 10:44 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 2:00:44 AM UTC+3, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>>>>> From water waves requiring water
>>>>>>>> From sound waves requiring air/solid
>>>>>>>> From Mexican waves requiring humans
>>>>>>>> From vibration waves requiring a string
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Since these waves require a medium, electromagnetic waves need a medium.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From cats giving live birth to kittens
>>>>>>> From cows giving live birth to calves
>>>>>>> From Mexicans giving live birth to babies
>>>>>>> From dogs giving live birth to puppies
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Since these mammals give live birth to offspring, platypuses need to
>>>>>>> give live birth to their offspring.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Like sharks!
>>>>> 
>>>>> A wave must have a medium for otherwise it cannot progress.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Something has to be there for the disturbance to propagate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't see how this is a more strange concept than alternate universes,
>>>>> neutrinos, quarks, continuously distorted space-time, invariance of c, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How is the notion of the entire infinite universe getting filled with
>>>>> infinitely small particles of solid matter more difficult to grasp, I cannot
>>>>> understand.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Electrons and protons (which make up matter) go through the aether as thin
>>>>> steel mesh through sticky sand.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, we will investigate this a bit further, in due course. How forces and
>>>>> velocities make up the structure of the universe and that there is only one
>>>>> force and that is electro-magnetic.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> same kind of logic;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> a man has two legs
>>>>>> a monkey has two legs
>>>>>> therefore all men are monkeys
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or descended from a common ancestor if we believe in evolution.
>>>>> But that is not my point.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A wave is a disturbance.
>>>>> Disturbance has to have a medium for propagation.
>>>> 
>>>> an EM wave needs no medium, it is just equations, E field and H field
>>> 
>>> Those equations deal with the reality of the electric and magnetic fields.
>>> Electric and magnetic field exist.
>> 
>> Yes, they exist. They are not an aether, notice.
> 
> They are not aether but they use aether for propagation when they vary with
> time to create an em wave.

And what makes you think so. The laws of physics that govern electric and
magnetic fields make no mention of any aether or its properties. In fact
the laws dictate propagation of the fields themselves. 

>> 
>>> To pretend they do not is dishonesty.
>>> That we can neglect aether as the medium of propagating radiation does not
>>> mean that it does not exist.
>> 
>> Your supposed aether may exist, but since it is not necessary for the 
>> propagation of disturbances in electric and magnetic fields (both of 
>> which are real), then what purpose does this aether serve?
> 
> It serves to carry them as a medium.

And since the medium is not needed for propagation, as you say yourself,
why presume a medium is needed?

> 
> One way as well ask what purpose water serves for sea or river or lake transport.
> 
> Yes, when seas dry up such transport stops.
> 
> Such cannot be the case with aether so we take it for granted.
> 
> As to why we need aether -
> It is to show how energy is getting created and destroyed with force upon
> electrons, with their inter-action with aether.

What energy creation? And what does this have to do with propagation of the
disturbances in the fields? Don't get distracted. 

> 
> Something new here, I think.
> 
> And fundamental to my new physics. More in due course...
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
>  
>>> I do hope the world gets out of the stupid-ostrich benj state soon.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am talking deductive logic. Not inductive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Deductive logic:
>>>>> 1. It rained
>>>>> 2. The streets are wet
>>>>> 
>>>>> Inductive logic:
>>>>> 1. The streets are wet
>>>>> 2. It rained
>>>>> 
>>>>> So once we agree that light is a wave
>>>>> We have to agree that light must have medium for propagation.
>>>>> No sliming out!
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Eisnteinians (not all are as stupid as benj) know this,
>>>> 
>>>> is that like a club they join?  get a newsletter ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> so they insist
>>>>> that light is a particle at times, and a wave at another times; this
>>>>> schizophrenic nature of light was hypothesised by one de Broglie.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Arindam Banerjee
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 



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Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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                Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 02:29 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 17:29 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:45 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 19:13 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:55 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-10 20:09 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 18:57 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-11 18:04 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 21:26 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 13:54 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-16 16:39 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-16 21:25 -0400
              Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 02:27 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 02:49 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 06:20 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 06:58 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 07:19 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 07:27 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:12 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-10 22:39 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 20:51 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-11 18:15 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-16 17:56 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 16:50 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-16 21:41 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:05 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:34 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:59 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 09:43 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium zubeneschgenubi@gmail.com - 2017-08-09 18:45 -0700
      Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 19:08 -0700
  Re: Waves need a medium "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:27 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-17 12:40 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:57 -0400
  Re: Waves need a medium raymond.yohros@gmail.com - 2017-08-17 13:51 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-17 20:57 -0700
  Re: Waves need a medium "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 12:08 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-18 14:12 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-19 21:51 -0400

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