Re: Waves need a medium

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Waves need a medium
Date	2017-08-05 12:02 -0500
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On 8/5/17 8:26 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 10:13:20 PM UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 5/08/2017 9:28 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 2:35:58 PM UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 4/08/2017 11:21 PM, john wrote:
>>>>> Silly
>>>>> "but describes light in terms of particles. The waves themselves are in
>>>>> the mathematics. "
>>>>>
>>>>> Thd trouble is that reality is not math.
>>>>> You have to demonstrate the 3D structure that does it
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The math shows that if you have particles that behave the way the math
>>>> says, then those particles will show wave-like characteristics. So you
>>>> cannot use the observed wave-like characteristics (such as interference)
>>>> to show that there are real waves involved. Thus the existence of real
>>>> waves in anything that shows wave-like characteristics is an open
>>>> question until other relevant evidence is found.
>>>>
>>>> In the case of light, things like the photoelectric effect suggest that
>>>> the quantum model is correct, and the lack of real waves obviates
>>>> question of what the medium might be.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> The photoelectric effect can easily be explained with antenna theory.
>>
>> Then explain it.
>>
>> In particular, explain the absence of an effect below a threshold
>> frequency. Also explain the absence of any delay in the emission of
>> photons regardless of how weak the incident light.
> 
> Very simple.
> To begin with, when we take classical theory we have to consider wave motion
> of the light.
> And wave motion in aether.
> So the photon is explained as the emission of an electromagnetic pulse.
> This happens when a dipole is formed temporarily.
> A dipole is formed temporarily when an atom is subjected to external stimuli.
> The atom gets hit.
> As a result, its electronic structure gets flattened.
> There are more electrons on one side, and less on the other side where the
> nucleus is.
> Thus there are two poles - one negative and one positive.
> In the formation of this dipole a half-pulse is emitted.
> When the dipole collapses, to its original shape, the other half-pulse is emitted.
> The frequency of the wave will correspond to the linear dimension of the separation as per antenna theory.
> 
> Now as for the photoelectric effect.
> It means that over a certain frequency there is electron emission.
>  From the classical point of view this means that at a certain level of
> aetheric vibration in spatial terms (relating to the wavelength) the electron
> will be so disturbed from its attachment to the atom, that it will escape the
> atom.

Prove this, Arindam. Show that a vibration of too low a frequency will 
not be able to dislodge an electron from an atom. In particular show 
that this result is INDEPENDENT of the amplitude.

Classical wave theory and classical antenna theory predict the OPPOSITE, 
that sufficiently high amplitude would be able to dislodge electrons, 
regardless of frequency. You claim otherwise. Prove it.

> If the frequency is too low, then the aetheric vibration in terms of distance
> will be too low, no matter how much the amplitude, and the electron will
> stay attached to the atom.
> When the frequency is high enough, the aetheric vibration in terms of
> wavelength will relate to the dipole dimensions. It will thus shake the
> electron out of its orbit.
> Which will create the photoelectric effect.
> 
> In short when the frequency is high enough, the aetheric vibration will distort
> the electronic structure in the atom such that electron escape will be
> possible.
> 
> When the frequency is low, such a distortion will not be possible and so there
> will be no photoelectric effect.
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
> 
>    
>>
>>> Antenna theory was not well developed in the early part of the 20th century.
>>> No designer of phased array antennas can have any use for relativity, quantum
>>> theory, etc.
>>
>> The designer of a phased array needs to consider the wave-like
>> behaviour. They don't need to consider whether there are any real waves.
>>
>> Sylvia.
> 


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 16:00 -0700
  Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 18:27 -0700
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  Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-03 00:14 -0700
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    Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-03 23:08 -0700
      Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 02:38 -0700
        Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-04 07:55 -0700
          Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 19:58 -0700
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  Re: Waves need a medium moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-08-04 03:44 +0000
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                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-05 04:24 -0700
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                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 02:49 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 06:20 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 06:58 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 07:19 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 07:27 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 16:12 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-10 22:39 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 20:51 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-11 18:15 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-16 17:56 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 16:50 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-16 21:41 -0400
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:05 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-08-16 19:34 -0500
                Re: Waves need a medium Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 15:59 -0700
                Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-10 09:43 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium zubeneschgenubi@gmail.com - 2017-08-09 18:45 -0700
      Re: Waves need a medium john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 19:08 -0700
  Re: Waves need a medium "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-17 11:27 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-17 12:40 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-17 17:57 -0400
  Re: Waves need a medium raymond.yohros@gmail.com - 2017-08-17 13:51 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-08-17 20:57 -0700
  Re: Waves need a medium "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 12:08 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-08-18 14:12 -0700
    Re: Waves need a medium benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-08-19 21:51 -0400

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