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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O |
| Date | 2017-08-02 10:17 -0500 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <olsqf0$1l3s$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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On 7/31/17 12:53 PM, Edward Prochak wrote: > On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 6:39:04 PM UTC-4, James McGinn wrote: >> On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:52:59 PM UTC-7, Edward Prochak wrote: >> >>>> Correct! That's what I just said, you fucking retard. 50C and 1 ATM >>>> IS NOT ON THE BOUNDARY. It is, unequivocally liquid. >> >>> Perhaps for an instant. But the system will then move toward equilibrium, >>> meaning part of the water will evaporate to a gas to form the vapor pressure >>> at that temperature. >> >> Wow! You are one amazing dimwit. This is such a stupid comment I don't know how to respond. >> >> If it is exposed evaporation will occur. And if it is enclosed vapor pressure will form. THIS HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE ISSUE UNDER DISCUSSION. >> >> It will not move toward equillibrium unless we adjust the pressure or the temperature. How is this not obvious? >> >>>> It's fucking right there plain as day. There is nothing to >>>> discuss or debate. >>>> >>>> The "equillibrium" here is between phases. IOW, along >>>> the bounDary of the different colors it is in equillibrum BETWEEN PHASES. >>> >>> So you see you do admit gas and liquid water can exist at the same time. >> >> Not at 50 C and 1 ATM, you fucking moron. > > You can't even follow your comment that I responded to. > > You are just inept. > > >> If you boil water in an open container then, yes, >> technically gas and water can exists simultaneously. > > At the phase boundary, BOTH exists. You said so yourself. > > >> But this is both trivial and irrelevant. At 50 C and >> 1 ATM IT IS ONLY LIQUID!!! IT FUCKING STATES AS MUCH >> UNAMBIGUOUSLY IN THE FUCKING PHASE DIAGRAM!!! > > >> >>> But for the non-equilibrium areas, you are only right for an instant. >> >> You are a fucking retarded loon. if the ambient temp and >> pressure don't change it will evaporate from a pooled >> liquid H2O to microdroplets of suspended (wait to it, >> wait for it, . . . here it comes . . . ) LIQUID H2O. > > That's not what happens. You said so yourself, at the phase boundary: >>>> The "equillibrium" here is between phases. IOW, along >>>> the bounDary of the different colors it is in equillibrum BETWEEN PHASES. >> >> Repeat after me. > I will learn how to read the phase diagram. > >> It will remain liquid (not gas) and we can now refer to it as >> evaporate, or vapor, or simply moist air. BUT IT REMAINS LIQUID, >> you stupid SOB. > > It really frustrates you when you realize > you admitted already that you are wrong? > [] > >> >>> Try this: explain what exist at the triple point! >> >> Go choke on a dildo, you fucking lazy retard. > > <sarcasm> Nice, calm collected argument there. <\sarcasm> Jim has a very simple view of states of matter and temperature. He has somehow come to the conclusion that a given substance at temperatures below the melting point, the entirety of the substance is and can only be a solid; that at the melting point, the entirety of the substance undergoes a wholesale transition to liquid; that above the melting point and below the boiling point, the entirety of the substance is and can only be a liquid; that at the boiling point, the entirety of the substance undergoes a wholesale transition to gas; that above the boiling point, the entirety of the substance is and can only be a gas. Where he got this VASTLY oversimplified view of phases, I cannot guess. Nor will he entertain any suggestion that this vastly oversimplified view is wrong. > > Have a nice day. > Ed > -- Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 18:46 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 02:27 +0000
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 19:38 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 02:52 +0000
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 19:57 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 11:40 +0000
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 23:56 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-07-28 10:37 +0000
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 09:54 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-07-29 16:29 +0000
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2017-07-29 09:52 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-29 21:03 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 13:51 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 13:54 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 11:40 +0000
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 09:57 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-07-31 12:07 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-31 21:01 -0500
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-04 13:36 -0500
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 19:52 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 22:22 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 05:35 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 09:59 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 10:45 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 10:58 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 14:52 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 15:38 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 10:53 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 11:47 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:17 -0500
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:16 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 15:37 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-04 11:10 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-28 18:26 -0500
Re: Often, fantasy is preferable to the truth, more productive. Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 16:28 -0700
Re: Often, fantasy is preferable to the truth, more productive. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-07-28 19:51 -0400
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:09 -0500
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-02 10:16 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 18:48 +0000
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-08-03 17:32 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-28 13:06 -0500
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Serg io <invaalid@invalid.com> - 2017-07-28 13:32 -0500
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2017-07-28 12:53 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2017-07-31 15:25 -0700
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-08-04 13:34 -0500
Re: Simple Question About Phase Diagram of H2O Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 22:22 -0700
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