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Re: Does Light Really Exist.

From "HGW..." <hgw@....>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Does Light Really Exist.
Date 2017-07-06 20:19 +1000
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On 06/07/17 02:20, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 6/30/17 6/30/17 - 10:43 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>
> 
> Experiments measuring light traversing large magnetic fields (> 10 T) 
> have shown no significant interaction. Experiments with intersecting 
> laser beams also found no significant interaction. These are of course 
> performed in vacuum.
> 
>> What do you think “interact weakly”
>> and “EM” means (in Wilson’s world)?
> 
> Well, EM surely means electromagnetism. For the rest I have no idea -- 
> from his writings it's clear that not even Wilson knows what he means.

Nobody in the whole physics establishment knows anything about what 
happens to light in transit. The conditions in space cannot be simulated 
in the lab and it is more than likely that EM elements which start out 
as individual 'photons' do not remain completely individual for very long.
You know no more than anyone else...which is 'nothing'... you are not in 
a position to say I am wrong. It is hard to know what one means when 
there is absolutely nothing to go on except speculation about the 
reasons for some of anomalies found in variable star analysis.

> Tom Roberts


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Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-23 09:36 +1000
  Re: Does Light Really Exist. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-23 10:49 +1000
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-22 23:37 -0700
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-23 17:09 +1000
        Re: Does Light Really Exist. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-23 00:36 -0700
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Lipek Mniak <iluka@sskwpiw.pp> - 2017-06-23 11:08 +0000
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:49 -0400
        Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 10:21 +0000
  Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-22 18:53 -0700
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 10:50 +0000
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-24 04:29 -0700
        Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 11:42 +0000
  Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 07:34 -0500
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:55 -0400
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> - 2017-06-25 09:43 +0000
  Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-23 09:08 -0500
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-06-23 12:14 -0700
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:57 -0400
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-23 22:40 +0200
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Iorgas Gerakis <grura@agsiskswk.ai> - 2017-06-24 12:10 +0000
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-24 08:42 -0500
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-24 16:28 +0200
        Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-24 23:08 -0500
          Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-24 21:40 -0700
            Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 14:56 +1000
              Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-24 22:14 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-26 11:16 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-25 18:54 -0700
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              Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-25 10:21 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-25 22:23 +0200
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-26 19:50 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 06:03 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-26 10:05 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 08:23 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-26 15:43 +0000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 09:19 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-27 08:15 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-30 17:43 +0200
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-30 11:36 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-05 11:20 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Oveho Trofyzikovu <zfeuur@ceuuwi.ku> - 2017-07-05 17:10 +0000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-07-06 03:49 +0200
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-06 11:11 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-06 20:19 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:05 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-06 20:40 +0000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-07 09:43 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-07 22:49 +0000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-07 09:11 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-08 09:44 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-08 00:09 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-09 10:06 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-08 18:01 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-09 12:56 +1000
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