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Re: Does Light Really Exist.

From "HGW, DSc." <HG@....>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Does Light Really Exist.
Date 2017-06-26 19:50 +1000
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On 26/06/17 06:23, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Tom Roberts wrote:
>
>> On 6/24/17 6/24/17   11:56 PM, HGW... wrote:
>>> Naturally light loses energy as it travels. How could it not?
>
> Good grief.  A “tired light” believer, too?  What’s next, “flat Earth”?
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tired_light>
>
> (in a nutshell: it was refuted by observation by and from the 1990s)
>
>> What MAGIC would cause energy loss? Light could travel from distant
>> galaxies to earth without losing significant energy if there is no
>> mechanism to cause it to lose energy. […]
>
> Full ACK.

Light interacts weakly with other EM, particularly in very high vacuum. 
The fields overlap. It is also affected by all the stray matter but with 
very little dispersion. The lost energy goes into the CMBR.

You know light imparts momentum to anything it strikes. ...and they 
reckon there are about 3 molecules per m3 in space. That causes a loss 
of energy and also an increase in entropy.

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Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-23 09:36 +1000
  Re: Does Light Really Exist. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-23 10:49 +1000
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-22 23:37 -0700
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-23 17:09 +1000
        Re: Does Light Really Exist. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-23 00:36 -0700
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Lipek Mniak <iluka@sskwpiw.pp> - 2017-06-23 11:08 +0000
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:49 -0400
        Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 10:21 +0000
  Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-22 18:53 -0700
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 10:50 +0000
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-24 04:29 -0700
        Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 11:42 +0000
  Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 07:34 -0500
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:55 -0400
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> - 2017-06-25 09:43 +0000
  Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-23 09:08 -0500
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-06-23 12:14 -0700
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:57 -0400
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-23 22:40 +0200
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Iorgas Gerakis <grura@agsiskswk.ai> - 2017-06-24 12:10 +0000
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-24 08:42 -0500
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-24 16:28 +0200
        Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-24 23:08 -0500
          Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-24 21:40 -0700
            Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 14:56 +1000
              Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-24 22:14 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-26 11:16 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-25 18:54 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-26 19:30 +1000
              Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-25 10:21 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-25 22:23 +0200
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-26 19:50 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 06:03 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-26 10:05 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 08:23 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-26 15:43 +0000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 09:19 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-27 08:15 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-30 17:43 +0200
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-30 11:36 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-05 11:20 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Oveho Trofyzikovu <zfeuur@ceuuwi.ku> - 2017-07-05 17:10 +0000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-07-06 03:49 +0200
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-06 11:11 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-06 20:19 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:05 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-06 20:40 +0000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-07 09:43 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-07-07 22:49 +0000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-07 09:11 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-08 09:44 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-08 00:09 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-09 10:06 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-08 18:01 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-09 12:56 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-08 20:45 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-07-10 09:50 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-11 10:58 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-07-10 19:58 -0700
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                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-12 08:22 +1000
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                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-19 10:20 +1000
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                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Michael Moroney <moroney@TheWorld.com> - 2017-07-19 19:56 +0000
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          Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-25 12:05 +0200
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              Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-25 12:33 +0200
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        Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 15:05 +1000
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