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Re: Does Light Really Exist.

From "HGW..." <hgw@....>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Does Light Really Exist.
Date 2017-06-25 14:56 +1000
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On 25/06/17 14:40, David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> tjrob137 On 6/24/17 6/24/17   9:28 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

> 
> Casually, when one puts a visible laser beam through a fog, one can
> "see" the path of the beam, and we say "I see the laser beam". But
> that is WRONG -- what is actually seen are the rays that are
> scattered by the fog from the laser beam into your eye. 

You see an 'intermittent beam' from each point in the fog....proving 
that light is particulate.

You INFER the
> path of the laser beam, because the visible rays all point back to
> the original laser beam and identify the path of the beam, even
> though you cannot actually see the beam (ray).
> 
> This is YOUR problem with words, and I won't continue. I cannot teach
> you how to read via a medium that requires reading. Nor do I care
> to.
> 
> Tom Roberts
> 
> If the (photons in flight) could be seen, they would not be
> quantatized anymore and would be dissipating energy while simply "In
> Flight".
> 
> The Vacuum Space time has all the properties of a perfect Lossless
> Frictionless Fluid which is exactly what would be required for
> Photons to complete a 13 billion year journey as they have been
> doing.

Naturally light loses energy as it travels. How could it not?

That's why there is a cosmic red shift roughly proportional to the 
source distance from Earth.
If the BB theory was correct, the observed red shift would not be 
symmetrical around our planet unless the Earth was the centre of the 
universe...which is what many good christians want to believe.



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Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-23 09:36 +1000
  Re: Does Light Really Exist. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-23 10:49 +1000
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-22 23:37 -0700
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-06-23 17:09 +1000
        Re: Does Light Really Exist. mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-23 00:36 -0700
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Lipek Mniak <iluka@sskwpiw.pp> - 2017-06-23 11:08 +0000
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:49 -0400
        Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 10:21 +0000
  Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-22 18:53 -0700
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 10:50 +0000
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-24 04:29 -0700
        Re: Does Light Really Exist. Valok Planek <lkupuu@kwklewan.oo> - 2017-06-24 11:42 +0000
  Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-23 07:34 -0500
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:55 -0400
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Itu Ikosaku <tkiuu@iotkswwwswu.si> - 2017-06-25 09:43 +0000
  Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-23 09:08 -0500
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2017-06-23 12:14 -0700
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-23 16:57 -0400
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-23 22:40 +0200
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Iorgas Gerakis <grura@agsiskswk.ai> - 2017-06-24 12:10 +0000
    Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-24 08:42 -0500
      Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-24 16:28 +0200
        Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-24 23:08 -0500
          Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-24 21:40 -0700
            Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-25 14:56 +1000
              Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-24 22:14 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-26 11:16 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-25 18:54 -0700
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                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW, DSc." <HG@....> - 2017-06-26 19:50 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 06:03 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-26 10:05 -0500
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 08:23 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Jim Petroff <ruuri@twjotr.eo> - 2017-06-26 15:43 +0000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-26 09:19 -0700
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-06-27 08:15 +1000
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-30 17:43 +0200
                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-30 11:36 -0700
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                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-07-06 03:49 +0200
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                Re: Does Light Really Exist. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-07-06 09:05 -0500
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                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-07 09:43 +1000
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                Re: Does Light Really Exist. "HGW..." <hgw@....> - 2017-07-08 09:44 +1000
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