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Re: Scientific method and its applications

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Scientific method and its applications
Date	2017-06-20 14:15 +0000
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<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> W dniu wtorek, 20 czerwca 2017 13:09:29 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> W dniu wtorek, 20 czerwca 2017 00:38:36 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> W dniu poniedziałek, 19 czerwca 2017 15:00:36 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
>>>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>> A physicist applies the scientific methodto persuade
>>>>>>> (both others and  himself) that his moronic mumble
>>>>>>> is experimentally confirmed.
>>>>>>> The  method is very effective.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you think the scientific method is nonsense, and that all scientists are
>>>>>> corrupt, then why are you here?
>>>>> 
>>>>> To fight nonsense and fix the corruption.
>>>>> But not "all scientist", of course. It's
>>>>> just your bunch of idiots in need of your
>>>>> "scientific method". Other domains didn't
>>>>> join your anti-common-sense crusade and
>>>>> common sense is still confirming them.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> How do you propose to fix anything? By catcalling? Has that ever worked?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And these scientists who don't use the scientific method, who are they?
>>>> What do they do?
>>> 
>>> How did Copernicus falsify geocentrism?
>> 
>> He didn't.
> 
> That's right, poor idiot. According to
> "scientific method" of yours ha had no reason
> to say what he said.

In a way, you're right. Copernicus did not use the scientific method to
make the proposal he did, nor were his arguments scientifically compelling.
Nor did his arguments convince many. That egocentrism was false. See Brahe,
for example. What DID turn the tide was in fact science, in the hands of
Kepler, Galileo, Newton. 

> 
>>> How did Galileo falsify absolute movement?
>> 
>> With observations of experiments with inclined planes that were
>> inconsistent with Aristotle's notion of rest being the natural star of
>> things
> 
> I'm asking how he falsified absolute motion
> concept, not "rest being the natural state of
> things" concept.

You don't see how those are connected? 

> 
> 
> And - do historians do much experiments?

No. Scientists do though. 

> 
> 
>>> 
>>> For centuries science worked: theoreticians
>>> made theories, and when common sense said 
>>> "they are reliable" people relied on them.
>> 
>> No, it was experiments that ran counter to common sense that drove these
>> ideas. You have lost your grip on the history here. 
> 
> No, poor idiot, you did (assuming you ever had it,
> what is rather doubtful). Fanatic idiots are never
> good at history.
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-18 22:59 -0700
  Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 13:00 +0000
    Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-19 06:32 -0700
      Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 22:38 +0000
        Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-19 18:37 -0700
        Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-19 23:43 -0700
          Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 03:14 -0700
            Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 03:51 -0700
              Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 11:09 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 04:40 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 14:40 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-20 07:33 -0700
              Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 05:22 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 05:30 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 08:23 -0500
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 06:35 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Eshiki Orakut <usa@iwikuh.ki> - 2017-06-20 13:39 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 06:45 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 14:40 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 09:14 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 10:27 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Eshiki Orakut <usa@iwikuh.ki> - 2017-06-20 17:32 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 11:35 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 05:03 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-22 05:32 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 11:28 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-22 23:33 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 11:12 -0500
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-21 09:45 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 05:07 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 05:07 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 15:32 -0500
                Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-22 15:38 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-22 15:40 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-22 23:34 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 16:56 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-21 10:20 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-21 10:36 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-21 22:03 -0400
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-21 23:12 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 10:24 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 11:12 -0500
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 10:18 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-20 07:38 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 10:22 -0700
          Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 11:09 +0000
            Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 04:39 -0700
              Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 14:15 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 08:50 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 09:11 -0700
              Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-20 07:50 -0700
    Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 03:00 -0700
      Re: Scientific method and its applications Eshiki Orakut <usa@iwikuh.ki> - 2017-06-20 13:03 +0000
        Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-20 07:41 -0700
  Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-19 15:01 -0700
  Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-24 12:04 -0700
    Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-25 23:44 -0700

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