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Re: Scientific method and its applications

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Scientific method and its applications
Date 2017-06-20 11:09 +0000
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<mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> W dniu wtorek, 20 czerwca 2017 00:38:36 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> W dniu poniedziałek, 19 czerwca 2017 15:00:36 UTC+2 użytkownik Odd Bodkin napisał:
>>>> <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> A physicist applies the scientific methodto persuade
>>>>> (both others and  himself) that his moronic mumble
>>>>> is experimentally confirmed.
>>>>> The  method is very effective.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If you think the scientific method is nonsense, and that all scientists are
>>>> corrupt, then why are you here?
>>> 
>>> To fight nonsense and fix the corruption.
>>> But not "all scientist", of course. It's
>>> just your bunch of idiots in need of your
>>> "scientific method". Other domains didn't
>>> join your anti-common-sense crusade and
>>> common sense is still confirming them.
>>> 
>> 
>> How do you propose to fix anything? By catcalling? Has that ever worked?
> 
> 
>> 
>> And these scientists who don't use the scientific method, who are they?
>> What do they do?
> 
> How did Copernicus falsify geocentrism?

He didn't.  He proposed an alternate account, which didn't get a lot of
attention until Kepler showed it could make quantitative predictions. And
then Galileo showed bodies that orbited Jupiter, an observation that was
inconsistent with egocentrism.  That's an example of defying common sense
with the scientific method. 

> How did Galileo falsify absolute movement?

With observations of experiments with inclined planes that were
inconsistent with Aristotle's notion of rest being the natural star of
things, and which pointed to conservation of momentum, a very
non-common-sense idea. This is another example of defying common sense with
the scientific method. 

> Do historians do much experiments?
> 
> For centuries science worked: theoreticians
> made theories, and when common sense said 
> "they are reliable" people relied on them.

No, it was experiments that ran counter to common sense that drove these
ideas. You have lost your grip on the history here. 

> 
> Of course, common sense would never say
> such thing for your Shit. Even your
> idiot guru had no doubts, so he announced 
> common sense a colllection of prejudices. 
> And, as you urgently needed a philosophy 
> saying that your Shit is worthy - the
> "scientific method" arose. A simple story.
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-18 22:59 -0700
  Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 13:00 +0000
    Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-19 06:32 -0700
      Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 22:38 +0000
        Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-19 18:37 -0700
        Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-19 23:43 -0700
          Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 03:14 -0700
            Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 03:51 -0700
              Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 11:09 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 04:40 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 14:40 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-20 07:33 -0700
              Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 05:22 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 05:30 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 08:23 -0500
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 06:35 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Eshiki Orakut <usa@iwikuh.ki> - 2017-06-20 13:39 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 06:45 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 14:40 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 09:14 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 10:27 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Eshiki Orakut <usa@iwikuh.ki> - 2017-06-20 17:32 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 11:35 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 05:03 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-22 05:32 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 11:28 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-22 23:33 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 11:12 -0500
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-21 09:45 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 05:07 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 05:07 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-22 15:32 -0500
                Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-22 15:38 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-22 15:40 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-22 23:34 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 16:56 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-21 10:20 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-21 10:36 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-06-21 22:03 -0400
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-21 23:12 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 10:24 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 11:12 -0500
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 10:18 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-20 07:38 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 10:22 -0700
          Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 11:09 +0000
            Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 04:39 -0700
              Re: Scientific method and its applications Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 14:15 +0000
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 08:50 -0700
                Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 09:11 -0700
              Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-20 07:50 -0700
    Re: Scientific method and its applications JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-20 03:00 -0700
      Re: Scientific method and its applications Eshiki Orakut <usa@iwikuh.ki> - 2017-06-20 13:03 +0000
        Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-20 07:41 -0700
  Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-19 15:01 -0700
  Re: Scientific method and its applications The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-06-24 12:04 -0700
    Re: Scientific method and its applications mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-25 23:44 -0700

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