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Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/

From Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/
Date 2017-06-12 22:09 -0500
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On 6/12/2017 9:42 PM, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 7:08:33 PM UTC-7, HAA wrote:

> 
> There is also -> that can be put at the end of a screen --- this is a bad idea --- this prevents screens from being give to LOAD one at a time for testing purposes.

When I used Pygmy Forth I would no have one screen load the next, 
instead the first page had a series of load commands to load one page at 
a time, so I could have more control over what loaded. Pygmy had a nice 
screen editor with shadow pages.

> I never used any Forth that had shadow screens --- the only one I was aware of, was F83 --- but I never used F83 as I got into UR/Forth and didn't pay much attention to the PD Forths available.
> 

>> Last I heard Chuck still favored 1K screens as being the optimum size chunk
>> of source to manage at one time.  There is something about that.
> 

It could be a vision issue as I read he has eye problems, large 
character for easy read.

> I'm not opposed to screens for source-code. I always liked UR/Forth's screen editor. I started writing MFX using screens, but then was told to switch to seq files because that was the company standard, so I did. IIRC, I used MultiEdit then.

--- I might write a screen editor and put it in the novice-package --- a 
big problem is that AT-XY has a bug in VFX and this will screw up any 
editor or other kind of text UI I might write.
> 

I been looking for a copy of UR/Forth with source so I can learn from it 
but so far I have not found it. I did find a copy of LMI Professional 
Forth and I also found some source, but I have not looked at it to see 
what I have.

Can't you create your own AT-XY so it doesn't have the bug? Are you 
using the free version of VFX so you don't have the source?

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-11 14:31 -0500
  Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-06-12 00:37 -0700
    Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-12 08:23 -0500
    Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-06-13 12:09 +1000
      Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-06-12 19:42 -0700
        Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-06-12 19:55 -0700
        Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-06-12 22:09 -0500
          Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-06-13 19:39 +1000
            Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ minforth@arcor.de - 2017-06-13 04:01 -0700
              Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2017-06-13 09:28 -0700
                Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 01:05 -0700
                Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-06-14 10:41 +0200
                Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 03:42 -0700
          Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2017-06-13 10:06 +0000
            Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-06-13 20:42 +1000
      Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-06-14 09:07 -1000
  Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 23:09 -0700
  Re: Shadow blocks - "What is old is new again" ;/ sdwjack69@gmail.com - 2017-06-15 09:36 -0700

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