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Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics

From	Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups	sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics
Date	2017-06-01 14:45 +0000
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On a sunny day (Thu, 01 Jun 2017 10:28:01 -0400) it happened Neon John
<no@never.com> wrote in <tb80jctice8clphejnec60duvj916hjmk7@4ax.com>:

>On Thu, 01 Jun 2017 12:49:20 +0300, upsidedown@downunder.com wrote:
>
>
>>>>Of course  it's easier.  It's just a motor.  It's done all the time
>>>>for surplus woodworking machinery.  VFDs are expensive.
>
>I've purchased a small 120 volt in, 240 volt 3 phase out VFD for $129.
>Now go price even a defective 3 phase motor and the capacitors it
>takes to run it.  The scrap value of the motor is pretty close to that
>cost.  Then compute the running losses of an induction motor phase
>converter.  It is quite inefficient.  The OP wants to use this on a
>swamp cooler which will run much of the time.  A small VFD that gives
>him the added benefit of variable speed, is a no-brainer.
>
>>>
>>>I *have* an electric lawn mower, think it is only 1kW or so,
>>>the kind you need to push (or pull) what is the problem?
>
>Several years ago I built an electric lawnmower.  Scrap magnesium
>deck.  physically small universal motor.  With the blade I selected,
>when it's mowing tall grass it draws 17 amps.  Works much better than
>the gas mower I tossed out.
>
>My wife wanted a shiny new mower so I ordered her a Worx 12 amp mower.
>It comes today.  We'll see how it compares to my scruffy looking
>home-made unit.
>
>>>Those electric movers are OK, just plug it in and it works.
>>>Cleaning it after mowing is most of the work.
>
>cleaning? :-)
>
>>>
>>
>>The nice feature of those small movers that you cam easily carry them
>>from one place to an other, while gas powered devices needs to be
>>dragged from place to place.
>
>True.  My home-made unit weighs less than 20 lbs.

There is a guy in a boating group here who uses 4 of those lawnmower type motors
to replace a diesel for his boat, and it actually works.

Picture:
 http://zeilersforum.nl/media/kunena/attachments/16210/20170222_121909a.jpg

Thread in Dutch: 
 http://zeilersforum.nl/index.php/forum-hoofdmenu-37/73-stroom-elektrische-apparatuur-aan-boord/572183-ombouwen-naar-vol-elektrisch-de-diesel-eruit?start=200

Mixed results, but it works.
Huge batteries, converter.

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Medical devices and US 220V electrics RBlack <news@rblack01.plus.com> - 2017-05-25 13:05 +0100
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-25 05:55 -0700
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-25 17:26 +0300
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-25 10:27 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-25 08:39 -0700
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-25 12:40 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-25 15:03 +0000
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-25 20:09 +0300
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics RBlack <news@rblack01.plus.com> - 2017-05-25 16:56 +0100
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-25 16:42 +0000
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-25 20:38 +0300
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 10:48 -0700
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-05-28 15:48 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 01:08 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-05-25 17:51 +0000
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-25 21:25 +0300
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2017-05-26 11:55 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 17:38 -0400
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2017-05-26 20:32 -0400
          Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 22:20 -0400
            Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2017-05-27 00:33 -0400
              Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-27 09:37 -0400
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> - 2017-05-25 12:07 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-25 12:49 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-05-28 15:56 -0400
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-28 16:59 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-30 12:37 +0300
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-30 17:41 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics gregz <zekor@comcast.net> - 2017-05-30 06:58 +0000
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 12:15 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-05-25 15:07 -0500
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-25 13:14 -0700
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-05-25 16:34 -0500
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-25 18:47 -0400
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-05-27 01:46 +0200
          Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 19:53 -0400
            Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-05-27 02:05 +0200
              Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 22:21 -0400
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-05-27 04:25 +0200
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 22:33 -0400
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-05-27 21:48 +0200
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-25 11:20 -0700
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-05-25 14:57 -0500
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics RBlack <news@rblack01.plus.com> - 2017-05-26 12:17 +0100
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-26 04:53 -0700
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 06:00 -0700
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 12:05 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 17:51 -0400
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-26 17:54 -0700
          Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 22:24 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-27 00:52 +0300
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-05-26 15:39 -0700
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-05-28 16:34 -0400
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-28 17:26 -0400
          Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-05-29 12:12 -0400
            Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-29 14:26 -0400
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2017-05-29 00:08 -0500
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2017-05-29 20:24 +0000
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-29 16:37 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2017-05-30 16:33 +0000
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-30 09:46 -0700
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-30 17:45 -0400
          Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2017-05-31 03:31 +0000
            Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-31 17:58 -0400
              Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-01 07:54 +0000
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-06-01 12:49 +0300
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-06-01 10:28 -0400
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-01 14:45 +0000
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-06-01 18:47 -0400
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-06-01 15:57 -0700
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-02 07:21 +0000
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-06-01 18:59 -0400
              Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2017-06-03 14:00 +0000
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-06-03 11:19 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-30 01:16 +0300
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-29 22:31 -0700
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 23:06 -0700
          Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-29 23:25 -0700
            Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 23:39 -0700
              Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-30 00:19 -0700
            Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 10:40 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 10:37 -0400
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-30 16:58 -0700
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-30 22:15 -0700
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-31 07:38 -0700
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-05-31 14:05 +0000
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-31 07:40 -0700
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-31 09:37 -0700

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