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Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics

From Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics
Date 2017-05-31 14:05 +0000
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Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 May 2017 13:05:28 +0100, RBlack <news@rblack01.plus.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>We are working on a medical product, which will draw about 3 kW from the
>>mains.  This is new territory for us, all our previous products were a
>>few hundred watts max so an off-the-shelf auto-ranging PSU with a
>>suitable IEC lead was OK for any country in the world.
>>
>>3 kW is OK for a standard outlet in 220V countries, but for North
>>America, Japan etc we are over the limit for a standard 110V outlet.
>>
>>I only know as much about US electrical installations as I've read, a
>>bit of Googling suggests the product will need a NEMA 6-15 220V outlet.
>>But how common are these in hospitals?  Anybody have any experience of
>>this stuff?
>>
>>It has been suggested (not by me I hasten to add) that we split the
>>loads within the product up and give it two 110V inlets, to get around
>>the customer having to install a 'special' outlet for it.  This sounds
>>like a Really Bad Idea and a regulatory nightmare to me, so if 220V
>>outlets are commonly available anyway I can shoot it down before it gets
>>too far.
>>
>>TIA
>
> This medical device...
>
> <http://www.analog-innovations.com/SED/Wee_Bit_More_Than_3kW.jpg>
>
> is at Ironwood Cancer and Research Centers.
>
> I don't believe it plugs into an outlet >:-}
>
> I visit it daily for 15 minutes to get my dose of RAD's.  In fact the
> form on the table is my personal molded shoulder and head restraint so
>
> I visit it daily for 15 minutes to get my dose of RAD's.  In fact the
> form on the table is my personal molded shoulder and head restraint so
> I don't try to move ;-)

That reminds me of my first job in the industry. We built CAT scanners
as shown by the renderings on this page:

http://www.preferredpacsconsulting.com/ContactUs.html

The rendering in the left panel shows the operator's table. The
rightmost device on it is a plain old camera for snapping pictures.

Our CAT scanner used 220V. That said, the room that housed it was custom
built for it. The room that houses your medical device was probably also
custom built for it.

Thank you,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU

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Medical devices and US 220V electrics RBlack <news@rblack01.plus.com> - 2017-05-25 13:05 +0100
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-25 05:55 -0700
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-25 17:26 +0300
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-25 10:27 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-25 08:39 -0700
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-25 12:40 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-25 15:03 +0000
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-25 20:09 +0300
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics RBlack <news@rblack01.plus.com> - 2017-05-25 16:56 +0100
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-25 16:42 +0000
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-25 20:38 +0300
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 10:48 -0700
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-05-28 15:48 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 01:08 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-05-25 17:51 +0000
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-25 21:25 +0300
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2017-05-26 11:55 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 17:38 -0400
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2017-05-26 20:32 -0400
          Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 22:20 -0400
            Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2017-05-27 00:33 -0400
              Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-27 09:37 -0400
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> - 2017-05-25 12:07 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-25 12:49 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-05-28 15:56 -0400
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-28 16:59 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-30 12:37 +0300
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-30 17:41 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics gregz <zekor@comcast.net> - 2017-05-30 06:58 +0000
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 12:15 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-05-25 15:07 -0500
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> - 2017-05-25 13:14 -0700
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-05-25 16:34 -0500
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-25 18:47 -0400
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-05-27 01:46 +0200
          Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 19:53 -0400
            Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-05-27 02:05 +0200
              Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 22:21 -0400
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-05-27 04:25 +0200
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 22:33 -0400
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-05-27 21:48 +0200
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-25 11:20 -0700
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-05-25 14:57 -0500
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics RBlack <news@rblack01.plus.com> - 2017-05-26 12:17 +0100
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-26 04:53 -0700
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 06:00 -0700
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 12:05 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 17:51 -0400
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-26 17:54 -0700
          Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-26 22:24 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-27 00:52 +0300
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-05-26 15:39 -0700
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-05-28 16:34 -0400
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-28 17:26 -0400
          Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-05-29 12:12 -0400
            Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-29 14:26 -0400
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> - 2017-05-29 00:08 -0500
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2017-05-29 20:24 +0000
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-29 16:37 -0400
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2017-05-30 16:33 +0000
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-30 09:46 -0700
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-30 17:45 -0400
          Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2017-05-31 03:31 +0000
            Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-31 17:58 -0400
              Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-01 07:54 +0000
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-06-01 12:49 +0300
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-06-01 10:28 -0400
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-01 14:45 +0000
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-06-01 18:47 -0400
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-06-01 15:57 -0700
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-02 07:21 +0000
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-06-01 18:59 -0400
              Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2017-06-03 14:00 +0000
                Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics krw@notreal.com - 2017-06-03 11:19 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics upsidedown@downunder.com - 2017-05-30 01:16 +0300
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-29 22:31 -0700
        Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 23:06 -0700
          Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-29 23:25 -0700
            Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 23:39 -0700
              Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-05-30 00:19 -0700
            Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 10:40 -0400
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 10:37 -0400
  Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-30 16:58 -0700
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-30 22:15 -0700
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-31 07:38 -0700
    Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2017-05-31 14:05 +0000
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-31 07:40 -0700
      Re: Medical devices and US 220V electrics Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-05-31 09:37 -0700

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