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Re: OT new Li battery?

From	Bill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net>
Newsgroups	sci.electronics.design
Subject	Re: OT new Li battery?
Date	2017-05-23 15:53 -0700
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On 05/23/2017 12:53 PM, rickman wrote:
> rickman wrote:
>> Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>> On 05/23/2017 12:25 PM, George Herold wrote:
>>>> I heard about this on the radio driving home last night.
>>>> https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/goodenough-introduces-new-battery-technology 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's the paper.
>>>> https://docs.wind-watch.org/braga2017.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Lunch time reading.
>>>>
>>>> George H.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Cool.  Hope they start making them soon.
>>
>> I expect I heard the same radio report.  The inventor is John Goodenough
>> who was a pioneer in the original Li ion battery, used LiCoO2 as the
>> positive terminal which allowed the technology to be economically
>> practical.  Since the material donates Li ions, it allows the negative
>> terminal to be something *other* than metallic Lithium which makes the
>> batteries much safer (in spite of the reports of the dangers of Li Ion
>> batteries).
>>
>> I think he has some street creds, but then so did Linus Pauling.  The
>> radio report said some scientists feel Goodenough's claims violate the
>> 1st law of thermodynamics.  I haven't read the paper myself.
> 
> I forgot to mention, like many new technologies, the main problem is the 
> cost.  So Goodenough may be just the guy to find a way past that.
> 
that would be good enough...

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OT new Li battery? George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-23 09:25 -0700
  Re: OT new Li battery? sdy <sdeyoreo@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-23 09:33 -0700
    Re: OT new Li battery? George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-23 10:35 -0700
      Re: OT new Li battery? Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-23 18:08 +0000
        Re: OT new Li battery? edward.ming.lee@gmail.com - 2017-05-23 11:23 -0700
          Re: OT new Li battery? Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-23 19:46 +0000
        Re: OT new Li battery? George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-23 12:06 -0700
          Re: OT new Li battery? Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-23 19:43 +0000
  Re: OT new Li battery? Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-23 09:42 -0700
  Re: OT new Li battery? Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-05-23 12:48 -0400
    Re: OT new Li battery? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 15:50 -0400
      Re: OT new Li battery? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 15:53 -0400
        Re: OT new Li battery? Bill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net> - 2017-05-23 15:53 -0700
        Re: OT new Li battery? krw@notreal.com - 2017-05-23 20:33 -0400
  Re: OT new Li battery? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-05-24 09:07 +1000
  Re: OT new Li battery? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-05-24 13:39 +1000
    Re: OT new Li battery? George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-05-24 06:22 -0700
      Re: OT new Li battery? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 12:25 -0400
  Re: OT new Li battery? Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> - 2017-05-25 23:40 -0800
    Re: OT new Li battery? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-05-26 16:58 +1000
      Re: OT new Li battery? Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-26 08:40 -0700
        Re: OT new Li battery? Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2017-05-27 01:33 +0200

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