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| From | Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: Combating Zener Jitter |
| Date | 2017-05-21 17:10 -0700 |
| Organization | Rowland Institute |
| Message-ID | <ofta9p066d@drn.newsguy.com> (permalink) |
| References | <ofrsc3$5em$2@dont-email.me> <ofs83l$ctq$1@dont-email.me> <ofsfa1$26v$2@dont-email.me> |
Cursitor Doom wrote...
>
> Jim Thompson wrote:
>
>> AKA Flicker Noise
>
> Yup, pink noise. No jittering/jitterbugging involved. ;)
Actually, I'd say you're wrong. The zener noise that we
see in avalanche mode (greater then 7 volts or so) is due
to step-wise "microplasma" ns-scale changes in current.
A decade or so ago we fully discussed it here on s.e.d.,
complete with measurements, waveforms, detailed physics
paper references and the works. Nailed it down. As it
happens, the jitterbug analogy isn't so far off.
This avalanche jitterbug noise source is not available
in the low-voltage field emission zener operating mode,
so using two sub-6-volt zeners in series in place of a
higher-voltage zener, or any of many other good schemes
would indeed be a good idea.
--
Thanks,
- Win
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Re: Combating Zener Jitter Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-05-21 15:55 +0000
Re: Combating Zener Jitter Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-21 09:03 -0700
Re: Combating Zener Jitter Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-05-21 16:29 +0000
Re: Combating Zener Jitter Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-21 17:10 -0700
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Re: Combating Zener Jitter Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-27 19:15 -0700
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