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Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace
Date 2017-05-21 13:19 -0500
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On 5/20/17 9:12 AM, AbhiJeet Patil wrote:
> On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 10:26:41 PM UTC+5:30, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 5/19/17 9:01 AM, AbhiJeet Patil wrote:
>>> haha... I have worked on this device from Oct 2002 to May 2005. It was working and i had even filed 17 provisional patent applications. But just when I saw that
>>> it is working, I entered in "another world". I returned to this device last year and may be I had forgotten something. But now i have recollected everything what
>>> I had done in April 2005.
>>>
>>> First video was taken in a room in Shahada town which is 180 Km away. Second video was taken here in my Chinawal village. And now I have just uploaded third
>>> video. These 3 videos are taken on 3 separate different floors. There is no friction involved. My further videos will clear all the doubts in your mind. But for
>>> the moment, this is third video...
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVLKd75MneA
>>>
>>> Even though I have to beg money from my family for basic needs, I am not going to file any patent for this device. This Universe belongs to the God and whole
>>> mankind.
>>>
>>> Welcome To The Universe...
>>
>> I've you're going to spend your time doing this rather than taking work
>> that would provide for your basic needs, then at least do it right.
>>
>> To prove that there is motion without reaction, you need to do three
>> other things:
>> 1. Eliminate external forces on the system by isolating it from the
>> ground. There are a couple of options here. The simplest would be to
>> mount teflon pads on the bottom and perform the entire demonstration on
>> ice, such as at a skating rink.
> 
> In this device upper arrowhead point remains stationary and only lower point moves. You suspect that the upper arrowhead point is somehow grip or friction with 
> the ground. So I have rotated the device in this new video to explain that ground is not playing any part in this device. Then you may suspect that the nuts 
> touching the ground may have friction. So I have removed and rotated whole nut-bolt i.e I have changed places of nuts touching the ground. Please see this video > I just uploaded...
> 

Rotating it doesn't help. Both ends are in contact with the ground and 
they will have DIFFERENT friction forces relative to the ground.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZsD-KElJdA
> 
>> 2. Eliminate external forces on the system by isolating it from your
>> hand. This means you have to devise a way to have the central screw
>> cranked without you touching it by hand. A coiled spring can be devised
>> to do this.
> 
> I am going to certainly attempt something like that.
> 
>> 3. Measure the center of mass of the system in both the triangle and
>> arrowhead configurations. This you can do pretty simply by balancing it
>> on your finger in both configurations. It's essential that you prove
>> that the center of mass moves, NOT the endpoints.
> 
> Oh, I will shoot new video to show that center of mass indeed moves in this device.
> 
> There is simple mathematics involved in this device which I have posted in this group in November 2003. Here is I am copy-pasting it...
> 
> ==============
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.physics/bnKERTTv0qY/discussion
> 
> OK, let us see Pythagores in Action..
> ______________________________________________________
> Pythagores Theorem:
> In a right angled triangle, the square of hypotenuse is equal to the
> sum of the squares of the other two sides.
> 
> c^2 = a^2 + b^2
> ______________________________________________________
> 
> Now  draw X, Y axis on paper. We refer origin as "B" instead of
> conventional "O".
> 
> Line AC of length c is on X axis and initially point C of line AC
> coincides with origin B. Let us move or slide line AC along X axis by
> distance d(where d<<c) in such a way that point C of this line AC
> slides along Y axis in vertical direction. Now, we have a right angle
> traingle ABC.
> 
> In this triangle AC = c, AB = a = c-d, BC = b
> 
> According to Pyathagores theorem, in this right angle triangle
> 
> c^2 = a^2 + b^2
> 
> We replace "a" by "c-d" as AB = a = c-d
> 
> Hence c^2 = (c-d)^2 + b^2
> c^2 = c^2-2cd+d^2 + b^2
> 
> We get, b^2 = 2cd-d^2
> 
> ******************
> b = sqrt[d(2c-d)]
> ******************

This does not work. You can demonstrate this to yourself by calculating 
the value of b, measuring that distance and putting a mark on the device 
at that site, and then attempting to balance it on your finger where 
that mark is. You'll find that it will fall. The reason is simple. You 
calculation assumes a uniform distribution of mass. But it's clear from 
the cylindrical weights you've added here and there, and the fact that 
the rod is a different composition and configuration from the perimeter 
arms, that the mass distribution is not uniform.

> 
> This is the basic equation which controls this action device. Please
> note that when, initially,  we move line AC along X axis by very small
> distance d, point C slides along Y axis and BC = b > d
> 
> Please tell me whether you have understood this or not.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Abhi.
> =================
> 
> That means, suppose you are moving a rod of 100 cm length on the floor of your 
> axis to slide it upward on the wall. When you move this rod by some 13 cm, you find 
> that the the other end of rod has climbed on the wall by 50 cm.
> 
> This is the key simple math which had occurred to me while I was thinking about my gravity theory at that time.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> 
> Oh, as you are maker of tools and tables, you can easily make such device of wooden rods and test it yourself.
> 

Of course I can. But I would put the whole thing on an air hockey table, 
not on a concrete pad.


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-04-23 10:09 +1000
  Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 22:08 -0700
    Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-05-19 20:26 +1000
      Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 07:01 -0700
        Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 11:56 -0500
          Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 07:12 -0700
            Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:19 -0500
              Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2017-07-03 22:43 -0700
              Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2017-07-03 22:57 -0700
        Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-05-20 11:42 +1000
          Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 07:20 -0700
            Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-05-21 10:03 +1000
              Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 21:51 -0400
                Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-05-21 11:54 +1000
                Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 22:23 -0400
              Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace AbhiJeet Patil <abhiriksh@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 05:31 -0700
                Re: Reactionless Action Mechanism for Aerospace Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-21 09:47 -0500

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