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Re: Reality versus Math

From Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Reality versus Math
Date 2017-05-19 16:30 +0200
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Op 19-mei-2017 om 16:01 schreef kenseto:
> On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 9:39:20 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 5/19/17 8:22 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 5:10:48 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 5/16/17 3:03 PM, Ed Lake wrote:
>>>>> I know that this could just be a trick to get me to post here
>>>>> again, after I said that it was a waste of time, but the
>>>>> question is a good one.
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the US Government's National Institute of
>>>>> Standards and Technology (NIST), the length of a second is
>>>>> officially defined as "the duration of 9,192,631,770 cycles
>>>>> of microwave light absorbed or emitted by the hyperfine
>>>>> transition of cesium-133 atoms in their ground state
>>>>> undisturbed by external fields."
>>>>
>>>> What's not stated in this definition is that this is the the
>>>> definition of a second for such a clock that is local and at
>>>> rest. A cesium atom traveling with any significant speed would
>>>> violate the standard. A cesium atom at a significant distance
>>>> away in a gravitational field would violate the standard.
>>>
>>> Local and at rest wrt what?
>>
>> Local and at rest with respect to the observer.
>>
>>> Does that  mean that the observer’s clock second is the standard?
>>>
>>
>> For him, yes.
>>
>>> But the observer is also in a state of motion according to other
>>> observer.....so how can his clock second is the standard?
>>
>> The first clock is NOT a standard to the other observer. The other
>>  observer will have to use a clock that is local and standard to
>> him.
>>
>>> What this mean is that each observer claims that his clock second
>>> is the standard. The end result is that we have infinite
>>> different standards for a clock second.
>>
>> One for each of infinite different observers! Yes!
>>
>> That's the point. No clock can serve as a standard for multiple
>> observers in relative motion. There IS NO SUCH clock in nature.
>>
>>> ....is that what you are trying to say? The problem is: this
>>> means that a clock second is not a universal interval of time as
>>> claimed by you SRians.
>>
>> No "SRian" claims a "universal interval of time" in the way you
>> think of it. You're thinking of it as being a clock second on a
>> single clock that can serve as a standard for all observers. But
>> that's not what "SRians" are talking about.
>>
>> SRians are saying that the PROCEDURE is the same for each observer:
>> Take a clock that is 1) local to you (and you only), 2) at rest
>> relative to you, and 3) is standardized. This PROCEDURE is the same
>> for all observers, and THIS is what they mean by it being
>> universal.
>
> So that means that the speed of light is NOT a universal constant but
> only a local constant.....right?

Yes, in the following sense:
If a factory would be able to produce some standard "meter sticks"
and hand them over to every observer, then every observer, using
a standard clock and a standard meter stick, would locally (i.e.
close to him/herself) measure the same speed of light. That
means the same number of standard local meters, per standard
local second. Every observer would get the same local number,
and that is why it is called a "universal" constant, since, as
far as we know, it is the same for every conceivable observer in
the Universe.

Now, since producing standard meter sticks is very difficult
and impractical, whereas manufacturing a standard laser-apparatus
and a standard clock is much more practical, it was decided to
universally "redefine" the local speed of light as a fixed number,
and then defining the meter as derived from (1) the second (which
is just a count of transitions in a standard counting apparatus)
and (2) the speed of light (which is just a universal fixed value).
Simple, no?

Dirk Vdm

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Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 07:41 -0700
  Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-06 16:43 +0200
    Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-06 07:51 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 08:08 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-06 08:37 -0700
          Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 13:44 -0700
  Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-06 17:25 +0200
  Re: Reality versus Math Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-06 08:35 -0700
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    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 08:57 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math Prijzen Sörözésekre <ouwu@wueidewliiut.te> - 2017-05-06 16:27 +0000
      Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 09:35 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math Kého Resované <knau@wjf2op.we> - 2017-05-06 16:50 +0000
          Re: Reality versus Math Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-05-07 01:56 +0200
  Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-06 09:38 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 09:58 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-06 10:06 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 10:29 -0700
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            Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 12:51 -0700
              Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-06 13:44 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 14:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-06 14:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-06 15:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 09:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 18:47 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-07 19:07 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 10:27 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-07 19:57 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 18:03 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:34 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 10:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:46 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:55 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:55 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-07 12:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 12:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 13:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 13:06 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 13:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-07 13:38 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 13:48 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math polyfrag@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 14:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-07 23:51 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 09:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-08 09:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-08 10:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-07 13:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 21:01 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 22:39 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 13:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 23:29 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 20:54 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 07:51 +0200
          Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-06 12:06 -0700
            Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 13:11 -0700
              Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-06 14:26 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 09:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:09 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 10:36 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:51 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:57 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 21:27 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 22:45 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 20:58 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:49 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:58 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 18:01 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 20:57 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 10:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-07 14:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 14:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 20:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 08:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-08 09:39 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-08 10:23 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math polyfrag@gmail.com - 2017-05-08 10:15 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 12:35 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-08 11:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 12:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-08 13:06 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 13:21 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:33 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-08 14:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 07:48 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 16:59 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 08:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 17:38 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 18:20 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 18:26 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 18:41 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:58 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 19:01 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 12:59 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 11:15 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-16 12:55 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-16 13:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-16 13:12 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 16:10 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-19 06:22 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 08:39 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-19 07:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-19 16:30 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-19 10:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-19 23:18 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:05 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-19 13:09 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-19 20:19 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math anne <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 13:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-20 05:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-20 10:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:30 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 04:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 08:25 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 13:33 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-02 17:20 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-02 17:57 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-02 19:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-06-02 20:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 07:34 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 14:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 07:33 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 09:40 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-03 23:07 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 08:39 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 09:25 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 16:17 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-20 08:22 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:32 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:34 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 04:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 08:27 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-22 08:44 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 13:57 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-22 09:50 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 18:20 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 18:24 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 09:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 11:51 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 14:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-22 22:50 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 07:47 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 06:41 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 13:02 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 11:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 14:28 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-24 05:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 09:28 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-24 17:03 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-23 23:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-24 14:36 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 09:45 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-24 08:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-24 16:34 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-24 23:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-24 08:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math sdru.product@gmail.com - 2017-05-23 10:02 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 15:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 07:49 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-23 05:58 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 06:57 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 13:04 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 11:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 14:30 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-24 05:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 09:36 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-24 14:02 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 16:29 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-26 08:14 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 10:19 -0500
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                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 17:44 +0000
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                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-30 14:36 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 10:47 -0500
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                Re: Reality versus Math Sienkiewicz Emniak <iecunkn@swazine.po> - 2017-05-28 15:19 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-28 16:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-28 17:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-29 08:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-29 08:59 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-29 10:54 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Earnest Rives <ueeenn@wweiwne.ac> - 2017-05-29 21:44 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-29 15:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-30 07:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-30 08:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ernest Rivers <erwm@weicnne.ac> - 2017-05-30 19:02 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 06:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 17:44 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 14:39 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-30 07:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 09:36 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-30 12:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 19:41 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Ernest Schwanenflügel <erwm@wanenf.oa> - 2017-05-30 19:54 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 22:35 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-30 20:04 -0400
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 00:38 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-31 06:42 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 09:01 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-31 09:18 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-31 07:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 10:39 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-31 08:54 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 17:08 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-31 15:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-31 16:55 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math sdru.product@gmail.com - 2017-05-31 12:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-31 14:52 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Michael Moroney <moroney@TheWorld.com> - 2017-05-30 15:41 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-28 19:42 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-28 14:36 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-28 23:04 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-25 02:38 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-24 16:46 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-22 13:00 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 21:41 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 07:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 11:27 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-22 15:40 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-28 05:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 17:44 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-28 12:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-19 07:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-19 10:04 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-19 10:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 12:33 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 18:54 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 10:57 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-16 19:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-17 12:53 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-18 05:05 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 05:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 06:20 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 06:23 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 06:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-18 06:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 06:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-21 05:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-21 07:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-21 14:21 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:35 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 04:54 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 08:28 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 09:02 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 11:46 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-20 18:55 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 12:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-17 15:31 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-17 23:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-18 20:21 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 12:44 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-18 19:14 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 17:26 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-18 23:29 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-17 14:27 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-17 14:39 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-17 14:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-17 14:29 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 09:03 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 13:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-16 21:43 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 16:11 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-16 22:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-17 20:53 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 15:37 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-18 20:20 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 09:35 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 10:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 13:08 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-09 13:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 13:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 15:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 15:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-09 16:19 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-10 09:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 09:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-10 12:59 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 12:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-10 18:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-10 23:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-10 11:55 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-10 14:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-11 15:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-10 17:10 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:35 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-10 17:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 08:20 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-11 16:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-11 16:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 06:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 07:47 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 09:23 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-12 09:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 10:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 15:12 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 10:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-12 11:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 14:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 17:12 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 17:14 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-12 15:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-13 07:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-13 08:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 09:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-13 12:14 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 15:27 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 13:47 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-14 04:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-13 12:07 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 22:37 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 14:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-13 20:21 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 21:02 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 22:27 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 11:34 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-14 05:22 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-14 05:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 19:57 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-14 12:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-14 13:12 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-15 21:34 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-15 13:47 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 15:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-15 16:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-15 23:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 04:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-16 06:20 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 06:58 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-14 10:49 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-13 14:37 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-13 17:21 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-13 18:33 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Marc Lichtenstein <eruamcn@cillnnwms.cc> - 2017-05-20 13:32 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 21:17 -0400
                Re: Reality versus Math Ndrijving Pruiten <ui@jsweiw.ke> - 2017-05-20 16:43 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 16:22 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 21:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-09 16:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 08:41 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:57 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 09:23 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 09:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 17:07 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 17:09 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:12 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-10 17:41 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-10 17:42 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 08:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 11:54 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 11:56 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 12:26 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 12:32 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 13:38 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-10 22:45 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-10 21:00 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 14:29 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 20:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 08:29 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-11 17:39 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 08:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 17:52 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 09:19 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:25 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 09:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-11 18:30 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 09:36 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-11 19:21 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 22:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-12 11:45 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-12 03:06 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 06:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 09:21 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 09:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-12 10:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-12 19:39 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-12 10:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 15:13 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 20:50 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:47 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-11 19:19 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:25 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 16:27 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 15:31 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 16:50 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-11 19:57 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 14:24 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-12 21:47 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 16:27 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-12 23:40 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:33 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 22:26 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 19:16 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 10:57 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:46 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-15 21:55 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 16:46 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-16 21:59 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 16:47 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-16 21:43 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 15:50 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-19 20:22 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-19 12:39 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-20 10:27 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-20 05:09 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-20 17:37 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Ndrijving Pruiten <ui@jsweiw.ke> - 2017-05-20 16:46 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-21 00:09 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Ndrijving Pruiten <ui@jsweiw.ke> - 2017-05-21 10:16 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-21 15:58 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-20 10:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ndrijving Pruiten <ui@jsweiw.ke> - 2017-05-20 17:09 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:33 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 22:05 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 19:03 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 11:24 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:49 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-04 21:02 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-05 08:51 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-10 17:05 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 18:58 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-10 10:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 13:14 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-11 08:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 15:54 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-13 07:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-13 15:20 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-14 06:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 10:43 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Lolek Atoru <oitiruc@rwuca.oa> - 2017-06-14 19:13 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Lolek Atoru <oitiruc@rwuca.oa> - 2017-06-14 19:14 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-15 06:48 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 08:54 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-19 05:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:58 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Ivovanho Títu <ivotatu@ufroaw.ho> - 2017-06-19 18:05 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-18 18:23 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:58 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:50 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-18 18:23 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:56 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 11:13 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-11 19:33 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 13:08 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-11 21:16 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-12 20:56 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 13:05 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 16:07 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:07 -0500
  Re: Reality versus Math Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 13:14 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:20 -0500
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 13:31 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:35 -0500
  Re: Reality versus Math Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:27 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 08:08 -0700
  Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-09 08:27 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:23 -0700
  Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-09 17:23 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:04 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-10 15:35 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 08:03 -0700
  Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-25 11:16 -0700
  Re: Reality versus Math Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-06-05 22:49 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 07:56 +0200
      Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-05 23:28 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math Groupie <einstein.groupie69@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 02:21 -0700
          Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-06 02:37 -0700
            Re: Reality versus Math einstein.groupie69@gmail.com - 2017-06-06 09:30 -0700
              Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-06 10:44 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Wozniak <einstein.groupie69@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 11:32 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-06 11:42 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 15:25 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-06 22:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 12:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ernardin Regoire <eeug@dnne.ri> - 2017-06-07 20:01 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 13:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-07 14:11 -0700

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