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Re: Reality versus Math

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Reality versus Math
Date 2017-05-19 08:39 -0500
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On 5/19/17 8:22 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 5:10:48 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 5/16/17 3:03 PM, Ed Lake wrote:
>>> I know that this could just be a trick to get me to post here again, after I said that it was a waste of time, but the question is a good one.
>>>
>>> According to the US Government's National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the length of a second is officially defined as "the duration of
>>> 9,192,631,770 cycles of microwave light absorbed or emitted by the hyperfine transition of cesium-133 atoms in their ground state undisturbed by external
>>> fields."
>>
>> What's not stated in this definition is that this is the the definition
>> of a second for such a clock that is local and at rest. A cesium atom
>> traveling with any significant speed would violate the standard. A
>> cesium atom at a significant distance away in a gravitational field
>> would violate the standard.
> 
> Local and at rest wrt what?

Local and at rest with respect to the observer.

> Does that  mean that the observer’s clock second is the standard? 

For him, yes.

> But the observer is also in a state of motion according to other observer.....so how can his clock second is the standard?

The first clock is NOT a standard to the other observer. The other 
observer will have to use a clock that is local and standard to him.

> What this mean is that each observer claims that his clock second is the standard. The end result is that we have infinite 
> different standards for a clock second.

One for each of infinite different observers! Yes!

That's the point. No clock can serve as a standard for multiple 
observers in relative motion. There IS NO SUCH clock in nature.

> ....is that what you are trying to say? The problem is: this means that a clock second is not a universal interval of time 
> as claimed by you SRians. 

No "SRian" claims a "universal interval of time" in the way you think of 
it. You're thinking of it as being a clock second on a single clock that 
can serve as a standard for all observers. But that's not what "SRians" 
are talking about.

SRians are saying that the PROCEDURE is the same for each observer: Take 
a clock that is 1) local to you (and you only), 2) at rest relative to 
you, and 3) is standardized. This PROCEDURE is the same for all 
observers, and THIS is what they mean by it being universal.

It would be the same if I were to define a standard hole as being one 
that is dug right next to you, is 6 feet deep according to your local 
ruler, and is downward according to your local reference. This defines a 
universal standard for a hole. However, there will be an infinite number 
of holes, then, one for each of infinite number of observers, and they 
will point in different directions (a hole in Australia points in a 
different direction than one in Canada), and different observers will 
see others' holes as being something other than 6 feet deep. The holes 
do not need to be identical according to all observers in order for them 
to be standard holes. All that matters is that they were all created 
according to the specification: a) local to you, b) 6 feet deep by your 
local ruler, and c) downward according to your local reference.

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 07:41 -0700
  Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-06 16:43 +0200
    Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-06 07:51 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 08:08 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-06 08:37 -0700
          Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 13:44 -0700
  Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-06 17:25 +0200
  Re: Reality versus Math Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-06 08:35 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Prijzen Sörözésekre <ouwu@wueidewliiut.te> - 2017-05-06 15:56 +0000
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 08:57 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math Prijzen Sörözésekre <ouwu@wueidewliiut.te> - 2017-05-06 16:27 +0000
      Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 09:35 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math Kého Resované <knau@wjf2op.we> - 2017-05-06 16:50 +0000
          Re: Reality versus Math Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-05-07 01:56 +0200
  Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-06 09:38 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 09:58 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-06 10:06 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 10:29 -0700
          Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-06 11:00 -0700
            Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 12:51 -0700
              Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-06 13:44 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 14:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-06 14:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-06 15:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 09:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 18:47 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-07 19:07 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 10:27 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-07 19:57 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 18:03 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:34 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 10:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:46 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:55 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:55 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-07 12:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 12:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 13:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 13:06 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 13:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-07 13:38 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 13:48 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math polyfrag@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 14:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-07 23:51 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 09:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-08 09:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-08 10:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-07 13:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 21:01 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 22:39 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 13:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 23:29 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 20:54 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 07:51 +0200
          Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-06 12:06 -0700
            Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-06 13:11 -0700
              Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-06 14:26 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 09:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:09 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 10:36 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:51 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:57 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-07 21:27 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 22:45 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 20:58 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 17:49 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-07 19:58 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Bordamos Alamidade <dd@dsmdawo.ab> - 2017-05-07 18:01 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 20:57 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-07 10:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 10:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2017-05-07 14:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-07 14:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 20:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 08:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-08 09:39 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-08 10:23 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math polyfrag@gmail.com - 2017-05-08 10:15 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 12:35 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-08 11:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 12:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-08 13:06 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 13:21 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:33 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-08 14:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 07:48 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 16:59 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 08:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 17:38 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 18:20 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 18:26 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 18:41 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:58 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-09 19:01 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 12:59 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 11:15 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-16 12:55 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-16 13:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-16 13:12 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 16:10 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-19 06:22 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 08:39 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-19 07:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-19 16:30 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-19 10:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-19 23:18 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:05 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-19 13:09 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-19 20:19 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math anne <0140519@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 13:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-20 05:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-20 10:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:30 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 04:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 08:25 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 13:33 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-02 17:20 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-02 17:57 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-02 19:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-06-02 20:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 07:34 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 14:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 07:33 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 09:40 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-06-03 23:07 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 08:39 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 09:25 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 16:17 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-20 08:22 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:32 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:34 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 04:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 08:27 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-22 08:44 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 13:57 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-22 09:50 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 18:20 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 18:24 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 09:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 11:51 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 14:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-22 22:50 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 07:47 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 06:41 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 13:02 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 11:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 14:28 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-24 05:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 09:28 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-24 17:03 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-23 23:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-24 14:36 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 09:45 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-24 08:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-24 16:34 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-24 23:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-24 08:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math sdru.product@gmail.com - 2017-05-23 10:02 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 15:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 07:49 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-23 05:58 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 06:57 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 13:04 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 11:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 14:30 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-24 05:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 09:36 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-24 14:02 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 16:29 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-26 08:14 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 10:19 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-26 23:55 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-27 05:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-28 05:58 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 17:44 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-29 08:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-29 16:42 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 14:33 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-30 06:35 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 08:37 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-30 14:36 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 10:47 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-28 06:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 07:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Sienkiewicz Emniak <iecunkn@swazine.po> - 2017-05-28 15:19 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-28 16:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-28 17:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-29 08:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-29 08:59 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-29 10:54 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Earnest Rives <ueeenn@wweiwne.ac> - 2017-05-29 21:44 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-29 15:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-30 07:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-30 08:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ernest Rivers <erwm@weicnne.ac> - 2017-05-30 19:02 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 06:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 17:44 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 14:39 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-30 07:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 09:36 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-30 12:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 19:41 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Ernest Schwanenflügel <erwm@wanenf.oa> - 2017-05-30 19:54 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 22:35 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-30 20:04 -0400
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 00:38 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-31 06:42 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 09:01 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-31 09:18 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-31 07:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 10:39 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-31 08:54 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 17:08 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math pnalsing@gmail.com - 2017-05-31 15:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-31 16:55 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math sdru.product@gmail.com - 2017-05-31 12:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-31 14:52 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Michael Moroney <moroney@TheWorld.com> - 2017-05-30 15:41 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-28 19:42 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-28 14:36 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-28 23:04 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-25 02:38 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-24 16:46 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-22 13:00 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 21:41 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 07:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-23 11:27 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-22 15:40 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-28 05:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 17:44 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-28 12:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-19 07:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-19 10:04 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-19 10:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-22 12:33 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 18:54 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 10:57 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-16 19:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-17 12:53 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-18 05:05 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 05:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 06:20 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 06:23 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 06:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-18 06:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 06:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-21 05:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-21 07:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Seki Ushisa <sis@iscauhw.ea> - 2017-05-21 14:21 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 13:35 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 04:54 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 08:28 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-05-22 09:02 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 11:46 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-20 18:55 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 12:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-17 15:31 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-17 23:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-18 20:21 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 12:44 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-18 19:14 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 17:26 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-18 23:29 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-17 14:27 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-17 14:39 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-17 14:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-17 14:29 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 09:03 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 13:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-16 21:43 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 16:11 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-16 22:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-17 20:53 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 15:37 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-18 20:20 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 09:35 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 10:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 13:08 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-09 13:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 13:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 15:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-09 15:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-09 16:19 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-10 09:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 09:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-05-10 12:59 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 12:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-10 18:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-10 23:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-10 11:55 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-10 14:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-11 15:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-10 17:10 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:35 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-10 17:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 08:20 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-11 16:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-11 16:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 06:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 07:47 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 09:23 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2017-05-12 09:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 10:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 15:12 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 10:24 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-12 11:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 14:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 17:12 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 17:14 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-12 15:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-13 07:18 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-13 08:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 09:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-13 12:14 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 15:27 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 13:47 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-14 04:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-13 12:07 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 22:37 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 14:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-13 20:21 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 21:02 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 22:27 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 11:34 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-14 05:22 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-14 05:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 19:57 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-14 12:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-14 13:12 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-15 21:34 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-15 13:47 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 15:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-15 16:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-15 23:16 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 04:40 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-16 06:20 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-16 06:58 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-14 10:49 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-13 14:37 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-13 17:21 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-13 18:33 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Marc Lichtenstein <eruamcn@cillnnwms.cc> - 2017-05-20 13:32 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 21:17 -0400
                Re: Reality versus Math Ndrijving Pruiten <ui@jsweiw.ke> - 2017-05-20 16:43 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math dancouriann@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 16:22 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 21:11 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-09 16:13 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 08:41 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:57 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 09:23 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 09:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 17:07 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 17:09 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:12 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-10 17:41 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-10 17:42 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 08:45 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 11:54 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 10:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 11:56 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 12:26 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 12:32 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 13:38 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-10 22:45 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-10 21:00 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 14:29 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 20:10 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 08:29 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-11 17:39 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 08:43 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 17:52 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 09:19 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:25 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 09:30 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-11 18:30 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 09:36 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-11 19:21 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math shuba <thailao2558@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 22:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-12 11:45 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-05-12 03:06 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 06:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 09:21 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-12 09:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-12 10:04 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Python <python@example.invalid> - 2017-05-12 19:39 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-12 10:49 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 15:13 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 20:50 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:47 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2017-05-11 19:19 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:28 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 18:25 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 16:27 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 15:31 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 16:50 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-11 19:57 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 14:24 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-12 21:47 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 16:27 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-12 23:40 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:33 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 22:26 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 19:16 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 10:57 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:46 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-15 21:55 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 16:46 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-16 21:59 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 16:47 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-16 21:43 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 15:50 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-19 20:22 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:31 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-19 12:33 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-19 12:39 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-20 10:27 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-20 05:09 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-20 17:37 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Ndrijving Pruiten <ui@jsweiw.ke> - 2017-05-20 16:46 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-21 00:09 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Ndrijving Pruiten <ui@jsweiw.ke> - 2017-05-21 10:16 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-21 15:58 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-20 10:03 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ndrijving Pruiten <ui@jsweiw.ke> - 2017-05-20 17:09 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 08:33 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-13 22:05 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 19:03 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-14 11:24 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:49 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-04 21:02 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-05 08:51 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-10 17:05 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 18:58 +0200
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-10 10:17 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 13:14 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-11 08:01 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 15:54 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-13 07:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-13 15:20 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-14 06:34 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 10:43 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Lolek Atoru <oitiruc@rwuca.oa> - 2017-06-14 19:13 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Lolek Atoru <oitiruc@rwuca.oa> - 2017-06-14 19:14 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-15 06:48 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-15 08:54 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2017-06-19 05:37 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:58 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Ivovanho Títu <ivotatu@ufroaw.ho> - 2017-06-19 18:05 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-18 18:23 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:58 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:50 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-06-18 18:23 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 12:56 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-21 11:13 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Jean-Pierre Framboise <nctede@pmdcehr.cc> - 2017-05-11 19:33 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 13:08 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Houchiko Inatsuki <uatci@swckskuwe.io> - 2017-05-11 21:16 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math "Kevin Aylward" <kevinRemovAT@kevinaylward.co.uk> - 2017-05-12 20:56 +0100
                Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 13:05 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 16:07 -0500
                Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:07 -0500
  Re: Reality versus Math Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 13:14 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:20 -0500
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-08 13:31 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:35 -0500
  Re: Reality versus Math Larry Harson <johnmcandrew66@gmail.com> - 2017-05-08 15:27 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 08:08 -0700
  Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-09 08:27 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-09 09:23 -0700
  Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-09 17:23 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-10 08:04 -0700
      Re: Reality versus Math John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-10 15:35 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> - 2017-05-11 08:03 -0700
  Reality versus Math "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-25 11:16 -0700
  Re: Reality versus Math Eckard B <eckard.blumschein@arcor.de> - 2017-06-05 22:49 -0700
    Re: Reality versus Math Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 07:56 +0200
      Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-05 23:28 -0700
        Re: Reality versus Math Groupie <einstein.groupie69@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 02:21 -0700
          Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-06 02:37 -0700
            Re: Reality versus Math einstein.groupie69@gmail.com - 2017-06-06 09:30 -0700
              Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-06 10:44 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Wozniak <einstein.groupie69@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 11:32 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-06 11:42 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 15:25 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-06 22:53 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 12:52 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math Ernardin Regoire <eeug@dnne.ri> - 2017-06-07 20:01 +0000
                Re: Reality versus Math JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 13:51 -0700
                Re: Reality versus Math mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-07 14:11 -0700

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