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Re: Why electric field does not exist

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Why electric field does not exist
Date 2017-05-16 02:15 +0000
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Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> writes:

>No, the electric field cannot exist.

>You have to have rest mass to have electric charge.

>You have to have rest mass to have magnetic field. 

I don't really see how that could be relevant, but go on...

>Charge is monopole, magnetism is dipole. 

Have two equal and opposite charges separated by a distance, and
voila! A dipole electric field!

>If Electric-field exists you have either one of two outcomes

>1) the field loops on itself being monopole dipole

You do know that sometimes this is the case. Remember Maxwell's Equations?
Curl{E} = -dB/dt.  That means a changing (in time) magnetic field creates
an electric field that forms a closed loop (curl{E}).

>2) electric charge requires no rest mass

Where the heck did you get that from?

An electric field is simple to understand.  It represents the force upon a
charge.  It can be produced by other charges or a varying magnetic field.

<snip nonsense>

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