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  Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 01:26 -0700
    Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 02:10 -0700
      measure outer space Ambient Voltage Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-09 15:04 -0700
        can we engineer a multimeter into the space probe itself so that it can read always the voltage et al Re: measure outer space Ambient Voltage Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 16:40 -0700
          our highest priority next space mission-- probe Ida and Dactyl-- send back all we can on these two Re: measure outer space Ambient Voltage Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 22:36 -0700
          Re: can we engineer a multimeter into the space probe itself so that it can read always the voltage et al Re: measure outer space Ambient Voltage Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl "Mr. Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.nohow> - 2017-05-14 12:42 -0400
            also- dock Cassini smack into the rings to measure solid body rotation Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 11:58 -0700
              Re: also- dock Cassini smack into the rings to measure solid body rotation Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl "Mr. Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.nohow> - 2017-05-14 19:17 -0400
                Re: also- dock Cassini smack into the rings to measure solid body rotation Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 21:28 -0700
                  Re: also- dock Cassini smack into the rings to measure solid body rotation Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-15 15:41 +0000
                  Re: also- dock Cassini smack into the rings to measure solid body rotation Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 18:41 +0200
                    Re: also- dock Cassini smack into the rings to measure solid body rotation Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 12:04 -0500
                      Re: also- dock Cassini smack into the rings to measure solid body rotation Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 19:16 +0200
                      Re: also- dock Cassini smack into the rings to measure solid body rotation Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-15 20:26 +0000
                        Re: also- dock Cassini smack into the rings to measure solid body rotation Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-15 19:31 -0500
                Re: also- dock Cassini smack into the rings to measure solid body rotation Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 08:58 +0200
                  Why electric field does not exist Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 00:44 -0700
                    Why electric field does not exist Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 01:30 -0700
                    Re: Why electric field does not exist Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 14:38 +0200
                      Dipole means field, monopole means no field Re: Why electric field does not exist Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 17:13 -0700
                    Re: Why electric field does not exist moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-05-16 02:15 +0000
                      Re: Why electric field does not exist benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-05-15 22:49 -0400
                  Re: also- dock Cassini smack into the rings to measure solid body rotation Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-05-15 19:30 -0500

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#633382 — Re: Why electric field does not exist

Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> writes:

>No, the electric field cannot exist.

>You have to have rest mass to have electric charge.

>You have to have rest mass to have magnetic field. 

I don't really see how that could be relevant, but go on...

>Charge is monopole, magnetism is dipole. 

Have two equal and opposite charges separated by a distance, and
voila! A dipole electric field!

>If Electric-field exists you have either one of two outcomes

>1) the field loops on itself being monopole dipole

You do know that sometimes this is the case. Remember Maxwell's Equations?
Curl{E} = -dB/dt.  That means a changing (in time) magnetic field creates
an electric field that forms a closed loop (curl{E}).

>2) electric charge requires no rest mass

Where the heck did you get that from?

An electric field is simple to understand.  It represents the force upon a
charge.  It can be produced by other charges or a varying magnetic field.

<snip nonsense>

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#633394 — Re: Why electric field does not exist

On 5/15/2017 10:15 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> No, the electric field cannot exist.
>
>> You have to have rest mass to have electric charge.
>
>> You have to have rest mass to have magnetic field.
>
> I don't really see how that could be relevant, but go on...
>
>> Charge is monopole, magnetism is dipole.
>
> Have two equal and opposite charges separated by a distance, and
> voila! A dipole electric field!
>
>> If Electric-field exists you have either one of two outcomes
>
>> 1) the field loops on itself being monopole dipole
>
> You do know that sometimes this is the case. Remember Maxwell's Equations?
> Curl{E} = -dB/dt.  That means a changing (in time) magnetic field creates
> an electric field that forms a closed loop (curl{E}).
>
>> 2) electric charge requires no rest mass
>
> Where the heck did you get that from?
>
> An electric field is simple to understand.  It represents the force upon a
> charge.  It can be produced by other charges or a varying magnetic field.
>
> <snip nonsense>
>
Archie poo is still a senile moron. He knows no physics at all as should 
be obvious.

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#633355 — Re: also- dock Cassini smack into the rings to measure solid body rotation Re: Gameplan of next Space Mission investigate Ida, Dactyl

On 5/15/2017 1:58 AM, Poutnik wrote:
>
>> On 5/14/2017 2:58 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Now you cannot have both, you cannot have Electric Field and Voltage
>>> as two
>>> separate individual concepts or parameters.
>>
>
> In the hydrostatic analogy,
> electric field is like the liquid density multiplied by g,
> voltage is like the pressure difference.

no.

units, man units.

E Field is in Volts/Meter

Voltage is in Volts.



>
> In the road profile analogy,
> electric field is like the road slope,
> voltage is like the altitude difference.
>
> Both quantities in respective pairs are closely related
> and one can have both.

nope. Units.

>
> As the former is derivative of the latter,
> and the latter is integral of the former.

derivative in terms of time or distance ?

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