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Re: Variations in laws of nature

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
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Subject Re: Variations in laws of nature
Date 2017-04-24 22:25 +0000
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Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> writes:

>On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 18:01:44 -0500, Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
>wrote:

>>On 4/21/2017 5:53 PM, Lofty Goat wrote:
>>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> ... Why are CH4 and CCl4 tetrahedral....
>>>
>>> Calling carbon tetrachloride "tetrahedral" is a bit of a stretch.
>>>
>>
>>http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jmol.php?model=ClC%28Cl%29%28Cl%29Cl

>Pretty picture.  By presenting a ball-and-stick molecular model as
>evidence, by implication you're stating that chlorine doesn't undergo
>SP3 hybridization when it forms compounds with carbon?

>Granted my brief study of molecular orbital theory is about 45 years
>behind me, but I rather thought it did.  In that case CCl4 would form a
>rather more interesting shape.  It would with any SP orbitals.

>Then again, maybe not.  I'll have look some things up.

Carbon is at the center, it is the one undergoing SP3 hybridization, not
Cl.

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  Re: Variations in laws of nature Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 13:35 +0200
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      Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 05:25 -0700
  Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 08:25 -0500
    Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 08:12 -0700
      Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-14 15:26 +0000
        Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 08:39 -0700
          Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 13:10 -0500
      Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 13:08 -0500
        Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 13:41 -0700
          Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 16:47 -0500
            Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 16:41 -0700
              Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 16:46 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-15 03:04 +0000
              Re: Variations in laws of nature benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-14 20:16 -0400
              Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 15:31 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 14:52 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-16 04:36 +0000
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 22:09 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 06:03 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 05:33 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 07:49 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 05:56 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 06:09 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:40 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 15:25 +0000
                Re: Variations in laws of nature "F.Art.Ingatu" <F.Art.Ingatu@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-17 10:09 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:37 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 06:57 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 07:37 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 15:21 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 10:23 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 10:53 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 19:59 +0000
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 07:46 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 15:15 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 08:29 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:39 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:40 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 15:33 +0000
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 17:53 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 18:01 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 18:22 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-24 22:25 +0000
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 18:07 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 20:06 -0500
          Re: Variations in laws of nature Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 02:57 -0700
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