Re: Variations in laws of nature

From	moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Variations in laws of nature
Date	2017-04-17 15:33 +0000
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Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:

>On 4/17/2017 7:56 AM, john wrote:
>> You didn't look up spherical tetrahedral packing?
>> Okay, you need four spheres around each
>> central sphere.
>> Methane has that.
>> Oxygen doesn't.
>>
>> Are you clear, now?

>John, first of all, tetrahedral packing is for spheres of equal size. 
>Doesn't apply to the packing of hydrogens around carbon, because 
>hydrogen and carbon aren't the same size. Secondly, the packing you're 
>talking about is for a solid assembly where there are layers and layers 
>of the spheres making up a large lattice. That is not the case of a 
>single CH4 atom in a gas.

>You STILL haven't explained WHY in your model the bonds in H2O are not 
>equally spaced.

Yeah, John, why is H2O bent yet CO2 isn't?

Why is SiF6-- a stable ion, but CF6-- doesn't form even though C is above
Si in the periodic table?  Why are CH4 and CCl4 tetrahedral but PtCl4--
square planar?

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  Re: Variations in laws of nature Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 13:35 +0200
    Re: Variations in laws of nature poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-04-15 22:16 -0700
      Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 05:25 -0700
  Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 08:25 -0500
    Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 08:12 -0700
      Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-14 15:26 +0000
        Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 08:39 -0700
          Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 13:10 -0500
      Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 13:08 -0500
        Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 13:41 -0700
          Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 16:47 -0500
            Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 16:41 -0700
              Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-14 16:46 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-15 03:04 +0000
              Re: Variations in laws of nature benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-14 20:16 -0400
              Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 15:31 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 14:52 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-16 04:36 +0000
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 22:09 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 06:03 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 05:33 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 07:49 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 05:56 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 06:09 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:40 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 15:25 +0000
                Re: Variations in laws of nature "F.Art.Ingatu" <F.Art.Ingatu@hotmail.com> - 2017-04-17 10:09 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:37 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 06:57 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 07:37 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 15:21 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 10:23 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 10:53 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 19:59 +0000
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 07:46 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 15:15 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 08:29 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:39 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 10:40 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-17 15:33 +0000
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 17:53 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 18:01 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 18:22 -0500
                Re: Variations in laws of nature moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-24 22:25 +0000
                Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 18:07 -0700
                Re: Variations in laws of nature Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 20:06 -0500
          Re: Variations in laws of nature Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 02:57 -0700
            Re: Variations in laws of nature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-15 05:29 -0700
  Re: Variations in laws of nature Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-04-14 10:18 -0500
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