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| From | Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth |
| Date | 2017-04-22 12:48 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <odffoe$nfl$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <odaesj$quo$1@dont-email.me> <odbv80$107s$1@gioia.aioe.org> <20170421224554.3164118b@_> |
On 4/22/2017 03:45, Rod Pemberton wrote: > On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:44:16 +1000 > "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote: > >> Alex wrote: > >>> Why change the licence from public domain to BSD? Partly because PD >>> really doesn't have any legal standing in UK law; a new version of a >>> public domain work will be copyright protected, even though the >>> original work is not. >> >> That's the whole idea. You can rework a 'public domain' work then do >> with it as you please including, as you did, place a copyright on >> it. > > Placing a copyright on a public domain work is not legal in the U.S. as > copyright law cannot be applied to a work once in the public domain. I'm not in the US. I am also not a lawyer (and I suspect you're not one). > Placing another copyright on a copyrighted work for the modifications > to that work is not legal in the U.S. either. The reason for both > of these is because trivial changes to an existing work are NOT > copyrightable under U.S. law, at all, e.g., patches, corrections, > modifications, etc. Under U.S. law, trivial modifications to a work > fall under the original copyright or lack thereof, i.e., public domain. The changes are so substantial that I defy anyone to find common ground between, for example, the Win32Forth kernel and the WF32 kernel, beyond the unavoidable commonality of words named DUP SWAP etc. > This means that changes to GNU copyleft code fall under GNU copyleft, > and changes to public domain works fall under the public domain. If he > made substantial changes, then he can copyright those changes, if > they've been extracted from the original public domain work. Also, the > only time a copyright can be applied to a derivation of another > copyrighted work is when there are substantial changes which are > sufficient enough to qualify the derivation as a completely new work in > the eyes of the law. If his modifications are less than the majority > of the derivative work, then he can't copyright the resulting > derivation. > Yes, that is the case. But again, I am in the UK, so (in the main) the Berne convention applies, where works eventually fall into the public domain after a period of time. I can't see any way where you can place a work in the public domain immediately. Copyright is automatic. > > Rod Pemberton > -- Alex
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ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-20 15:02 +0100
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-20 15:55 +0100
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-20 17:17 +0000
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-20 19:23 +0100
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-21 09:40 +0000
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth josv@planet.nl - 2017-04-21 02:58 -0700
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-21 11:44 +0000
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-21 13:49 +0100
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth josv@planet.nl - 2017-04-21 09:03 -0700
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-04-20 19:22 +0200
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-20 19:19 +0100
Re: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-04-21 13:44 +1000
Re: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-04-21 22:45 -0400
Re: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-04-21 22:50 -0400
Re: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 00:57 -0400
Re: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-04-22 23:32 -0400
Re: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-04-24 16:54 +0000
Re: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 13:05 -0400
Re: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-04-25 07:26 +0000
Re: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-22 12:48 +0100
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-04-24 13:59 +0000
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-24 16:41 +0100
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-29 19:13 +0100
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth NN <november.nihal@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 14:07 -0700
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-24 22:48 +0100
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-29 19:49 +0100
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-30 22:33 +0100
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-04-30 12:20 +0200
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-30 12:00 +0100
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-04-30 14:39 +0200
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-30 14:03 +0100
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-04-30 19:51 +0200
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-04-30 20:03 +0200
Re: ANN: WF32, a Windows 32 bit Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-30 20:06 +0100
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