Re: Make Forth Small Again!

From	Alex <alex@rivadpm.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Make Forth Small Again!
Date	2017-03-27 15:31 +0100
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On 3/26/2017 23:14, Ilya Tarasov wrote:
>>> Explanation is very easy. If you want to rewrite C#, Microsoft
>>> can say 'use C# as is or get out'. Can you write your own C#
>>> compiler? For most programmers answer is 'no'. But if you attempt
>>> to behave the same manner with Forth, the answer will be 'yes, we
>>> can rewrite, so YOU may sitting still with your toys, and we will
>>> go to advance with our vision'.
>> I know of at least 3 C# compilers. Mono, dotgnu and roslyn.
> At least 3 with... how many programmers? When I search for it, I see
> number from 3-4 millions to 7-8 millions. Even if we add some other
> compilers, not listed here, we still have 1 compiler per 1 Million
> programmers.
>
> I can suppose we have thousands Forth programmers in the world (and
> this is optimistic, if we will count only active users with practical
> results). How many Forth systems we can see now? Tens, if we will
> count only actual for now. So we have one Forth per 10 - 100
> programmers! Ok, one per 1000. This still means Forth is 1000+ times
> likely to be rewritten by our demands than C#.
>

As a complete aside, and since you're into some very impressive goalpost 
shifting there with ratios of programmers to compilers, did you know 
that there's an international C# standard? 
https://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-334.htm. 
There's also Microsoft's "de facto" standard 
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7029. It's a 
similar state of affairs to Forth with Forth201x and ANS FORTH; they 
aren't in lockstep (ECMA covers v2 and MS is up to v5).

Sometimes there are even competing standards for the same technology. 
There are currently 3 standards for modelling object storage; Amazon S3 
(de facto), OpenStack Swift (another de facto but less popular) and CDMI 
(de jure, an ISO standard). In the long term, the outcomes are possibly 
that one will dominate the market and two will die; or, one will 
dominate and the other two will accommodate themselves to the reality 
and become like it; or products will appear that support all three, 
since they are not mutually incompatible and are in the main different 
APIs for similar functionality.

Whichever way that turns out, the example serves to demonstrate that 
there's room for plenty more Forth standards -- like ANS, Forth 201x, 
Hughs' Straight Forth and perhaps even one of your efforts.

However, I place Hugh's Straight Forth in the doomed category. It has 
little support or promotion beyond Hugh's posts here, no product (that's 
generally a fatal mistake) and it appears to be significantly incomplete 
and in places ill thought through. It also requires Hugh to do all the 
work.

This shouldn't stop innovation (and it won't; humans are notoriously 
irrational and do the strangest things, especially when challenged). 
Look at Perl or Ruby or Linux; wildly successful and totally 
unstandardised except for the single implementation from one benevolent 
dictator's keyboard. You or Hugh or I could do the same, but that takes 
an implementation of something, usefulness beyond scoring points on 
Usenet, and the kind of monomaniacal focus and effort that I'm afraid 
none of us has.

One closer to home example. Ron Aaron (who posts here) is one such 
benevolent dictator, and his 8th (http://8th-dev.com/index.html) exists, 
is well marketed and from a tech perspective, is good quality, extensive 
in scope & is well documented. Even with these considerable advantages 
(and forgive me here Ron), I do not think that it is going to set the 
tech heather alight. It will be successful, no doubt, but it's not going 
to become a de facto or even de jure standard any time soon.

Notwithstanding that, it will far outstrip Straight Forth in the amount 
of code written and number of practitioners, by a factor of infinity.

Hence I prefer making my contributions in small pieces and cooperatively 
with others. Together we magnify each other's work. It ends up being 
better thought through, better tested in the field, more authoritative, 
more formally specified, and hence considerably more impressive & worthy 
of consideration than a single individual's efforts. Perhaps that's why 
you and Hugh find ANS Forth and FOrth201x scary.

-- 
Alex

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Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 09:58 -0700
  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-20 10:34 -0700
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 10:51 -0700
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-20 18:08 +0000
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! NN <november.nihal@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 12:19 -0700
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 05:51 -0700
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 15:04 +0100
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-21 11:22 -1000
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 14:47 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 01:34 +0100
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-25 17:27 +1100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 00:06 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 01:02 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 01:05 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-27 12:11 +1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-27 15:53 +1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-26 22:12 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-29 10:30 +1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 09:34 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! mhx@iae.nl - 2017-03-25 03:46 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-27 10:56 +1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-28 10:07 +1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! mhx@iae.nl - 2017-03-27 16:46 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-27 18:51 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-27 17:21 -1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 10:57 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! minforth@arcor.de - 2017-03-28 01:16 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-28 03:36 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! minforth@arcor.de - 2017-03-28 01:54 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-28 12:57 -1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-28 03:51 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-29 10:29 +1000
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 03:33 -0500
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 05:17 -0700
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 09:42 -0500
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 09:49 -0700
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 12:12 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:28 -0700
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-21 16:43 -0400
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-21 14:11 -1000
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-21 16:46 +0000
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 12:32 -0500
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:57 -0700
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 14:10 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 12:50 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 15:29 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 14:01 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-22 03:23 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-04-07 09:26 +0200
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-04-07 10:10 -1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-21 16:42 -0400
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-22 13:10 +0000
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 06:38 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-22 15:24 +0000
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-22 08:52 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 13:55 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-25 17:41 -0500
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 07:43 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 08:06 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 10:01 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 10:19 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 10:59 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-22 18:31 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 13:55 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 05:50 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-23 08:05 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-23 13:47 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 15:31 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-23 10:25 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-24 18:07 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 10:45 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 03:50 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-03 05:57 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 12:08 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-03 12:26 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 16:02 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-03 16:08 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 16:35 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-03 18:28 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-04 10:14 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 12:44 +0200
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-04 12:32 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-04 06:49 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! crc <charles.childers@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:50 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-04 13:14 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-05 11:19 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 04:16 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-05 12:35 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 13:55 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-03 17:04 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 07:29 +0300
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-04 02:52 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-05-04 05:08 -0400
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-04 06:34 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-04 11:17 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-05-03 19:03 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-24 18:12 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 13:49 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-23 00:58 -0400
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-23 00:57 -0400
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-22 20:55 -1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-23 18:05 -0700
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 15:57 -0400
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 10:29 +0000
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 04:00 -0700
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 08:01 -0400
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-05-04 16:06 +0000
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 14:02 -0700
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-23 00:57 -0400
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-22 20:59 -1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-23 12:14 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-03-23 14:45 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-23 12:24 -1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-28 10:55 +1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-27 17:24 -1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-29 10:49 +1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-28 15:05 -1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 19:06 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 06:43 +0300
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-30 10:37 +1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-29 19:34 -1000
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2017-03-23 10:36 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-23 11:33 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-03-23 14:58 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-24 17:57 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-24 22:32 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 17:10 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 07:31 +0000
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-04-07 08:50 +0200
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 17:57 -0400
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 10:09 +0100
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-03 10:28 +0100
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 07:57 -0400
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2017-05-03 13:07 +0000
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 16:03 +0100
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-20 14:08 -1000
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-20 17:51 -0700
  Re: Make Forth Small Again! minforth@arcor.de - 2017-03-20 13:12 -0700
  Re: Make Forth Small Again! bruehlconsult@gmail.com - 2017-03-20 17:22 -0700
  Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-20 19:12 -0700
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 02:30 -0700
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! minforth@arcor.de - 2017-03-21 02:47 -0700
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 05:56 -0500
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 16:07 -0400
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-21 14:28 -1000
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-28 11:30 +1000
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-21 16:42 -0400
  Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-21 22:56 -0700
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 04:04 -0700
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-23 00:57 -0400
  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 02:32 -0700
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-24 10:00 +0000
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 06:46 -0700
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-24 14:41 +0000
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 15:32 -0700
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-25 23:10 +0000
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 17:29 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-25 18:08 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-26 08:30 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-26 08:50 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 15:14 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-27 08:32 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 13:21 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-27 15:31 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 09:04 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-27 11:52 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-27 18:41 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-27 12:58 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 12:07 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 13:06 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 11:30 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-28 20:06 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-03-29 14:54 +0200
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 19:13 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-27 21:18 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 10:54 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 21:53 +0300
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-27 22:29 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 14:07 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 16:03 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-31 09:28 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 03:36 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-31 19:29 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 04:37 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-01 09:23 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 10:37 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-04-01 11:55 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-01 14:15 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 12:55 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-07 12:08 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 09:04 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 21:35 +0200
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-04-01 20:35 -0400
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 11:52 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-01 16:31 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 20:54 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-01 21:13 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 16:06 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-31 09:42 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 03:52 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 20:26 -0700
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-27 04:55 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 08:49 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 13:35 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 14:23 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 15:28 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 23:20 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 02:29 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 03:20 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-31 03:38 -0500
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-24 09:17 -0500
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-24 17:52 -0700

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