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Re: Make Forth Small Again!

From rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Make Forth Small Again!
Date 2017-03-21 16:07 -0400
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On 3/21/2017 5:30 AM, Mark Wills wrote:
> On Tuesday, 21 March 2017 02:12:09 UTC, hughag...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 9:58:20 AM UTC-7, Helmar Wodtke wrote:
>>> Well, I did not reply to BIG/GREAT ;)
>>>
>>> Most people think that GREAT is some BIGger advanture, what a Forth system has to offer.
>>>
>>> What do you expect? A GUI-API? What number of GUIs has Forth survived? How complicated it is, to connect Forth to any user interface?
>>>
>>> Do you really want a "BUTTON" ( gui x y w h s -- gui' ) word defined in standard?
>>>
>>> Forth has to become SMALL again. Something basic. Well, even if this is not convenient to some commercial vendors: Forth lost with its complexity. Instead of DPAN94 there should be something that *only* defines DUP DROP SWAP etc. Inside "core"-word of DPANS is for example 2OVER... Why? Today? 64bit... Or all these 8-bit-memory access? All crap. Nobody needs this. Americans can use it. But to get U-Umlaut is a problem in current "standards".
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -Helmar
>>
>> How about: "Make Forth Sane Again!"
>>
>> With my Straight Forth design, I am getting rid of a lot of cruft. I don't have DO loops anymore, for example.
>> So, small is beautiful!
>>
>> On the other hand, I am adding two data-structures --- the array and the chain --- I expect maybe 99% of the programs to use these, and only 1% to have custom data-structures.
>> So, big is beautiful!
>>
>> I agree that we don't want to put a GUI code-library in the standard --- it should be possible to write code-libraries such as this in the standard --- it would be best to write versions for every OS that the system might be running on, so it will require somebody who knows a lot (knows more than I do).
>>
>> OTOH, some words are very useful --- an example is TICKS that gives the current time in milliseconds --- something like this would be difficult for the user to write, as it would require knowledge of every OS that the system might be running on.
>>
>> I might also have graphics capability built into the language --- that seems useful to everybody --- unfortunately, this is somewhat beyond my knowledge-level (a lot of useful programming is beyond my knowledge-level).
>
> I think the standard is very nearly there. I would like to see a moratorium
> on adding new words to the standard, and a focused effort to eradicate the
> use of "may" in the standard and a lot more use of "shall". The disambiguator
> code that Hugh developed is a good example of why this is necessary.
> If the true goal of the standard is portability (and it is, it's stated right
> there in the opening text of the standard) then more focus on removing the
> ambiguity is required. You can't blame the vendors for taking advantage of
> holes in a standard. You can only blame when their product doesn't conform to
> the standard. But at the moment, the standard (in some areas, by no means,
> all) is not prescriptive enough.
>
> I would also develop an appendix showing examples of every word in core,
> showing the outputs for given inputs, including corner cases. This is the
> essence of a standard (in my opinion): demonstration of compliance. If
> the standard itself includes test cases then you can be quite confident
> early on that your system is compliant; bugs in the implementation (or
> in the standard ;-) notwithstanding. Almost no standards that I have seen
> do this though, so the Forth TC is free of blame here, too.
>
> We should try and get away from blaming or criticising the TC for the
> short-comings, and try to come together, collaboratively, with a spirit
> of cooperation. This happens all over the world in the standards "world"
> with companies that are fierce competitors coming together to improve
> standards, which in turn helps them to focus product development. In
> involved with some of this in the water industry right now, and the
> members of the DNP3 WITS organisations are ALL competitors, yet they
> get on very well and progress is good, and sprits high.
>
> Why can't we do that in the Forth community?

I would ask why you aren't part of the effort to update the standard?  I 
know why Hugh isn't.  He is far too argumentative.  But why don't you 
work with the TC?

-- 

Rick C

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Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 09:58 -0700
  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-20 10:34 -0700
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 10:51 -0700
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-20 18:08 +0000
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! NN <november.nihal@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 12:19 -0700
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 05:51 -0700
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 15:04 +0100
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-21 11:22 -1000
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 14:47 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 01:34 +0100
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-25 17:27 +1100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 00:06 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 01:02 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 01:05 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-27 12:11 +1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-27 15:53 +1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-26 22:12 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-29 10:30 +1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 09:34 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! mhx@iae.nl - 2017-03-25 03:46 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-27 10:56 +1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-28 10:07 +1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! mhx@iae.nl - 2017-03-27 16:46 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-27 18:51 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-27 17:21 -1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 10:57 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! minforth@arcor.de - 2017-03-28 01:16 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-28 03:36 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! minforth@arcor.de - 2017-03-28 01:54 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-28 12:57 -1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-28 03:51 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-29 10:29 +1000
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 03:33 -0500
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 05:17 -0700
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 09:42 -0500
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 09:49 -0700
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 12:12 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:28 -0700
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-21 16:43 -0400
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-21 14:11 -1000
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-21 16:46 +0000
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 12:32 -0500
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:57 -0700
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 14:10 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 12:50 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 15:29 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 14:01 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-22 03:23 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-04-07 09:26 +0200
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-04-07 10:10 -1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-21 16:42 -0400
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-22 13:10 +0000
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 06:38 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-22 15:24 +0000
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-22 08:52 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 13:55 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-25 17:41 -0500
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 07:43 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 08:06 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 10:01 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 10:19 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 10:59 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-22 18:31 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 13:55 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 05:50 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-23 08:05 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-23 13:47 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 15:31 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-23 10:25 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-24 18:07 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 10:45 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 03:50 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-03 05:57 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 12:08 +0100
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                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 16:35 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-03 18:28 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-04 10:14 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 12:44 +0200
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-04 12:32 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-04 06:49 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! crc <charles.childers@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:50 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-04 13:14 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-05 11:19 +0100
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                Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-05 12:35 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 13:55 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-03 17:04 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 07:29 +0300
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-04 02:52 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-05-04 05:08 -0400
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-04 06:34 -0500
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                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-23 00:58 -0400
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-23 00:57 -0400
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                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-23 18:05 -0700
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            Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 10:29 +0000
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 04:00 -0700
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                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 04:37 -0700
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                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-04-01 11:55 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-01 14:15 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 12:55 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-07 12:08 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 09:04 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 21:35 +0200
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-04-01 20:35 -0400
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 11:52 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-01 16:31 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 20:54 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-01 21:13 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 16:06 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-31 09:42 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 03:52 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 20:26 -0700
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-27 04:55 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 08:49 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 13:35 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 14:23 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 15:28 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 23:20 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 02:29 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 03:20 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-31 03:38 -0500
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-24 09:17 -0500
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-24 17:52 -0700

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