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Re: Automotive Software and the Law

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Tim Wescott wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 05:54:43 -0500, Les Cargill wrote:
>
>> John Speth wrote:
>>>> Actually by "law" I mean "law".  Are there regulations in any
>>>> country or other polity that require companies manufacturing or
>>>> selling automobiles to adhere to the standard before they can
>>>> legally sell their wares?  Is there anywhere in the world where
>>>> not following ISO 26262 will have a cop or a government lawyer
>>>> knocking on your door? Is there anywhere in the world where,
>>>> before you can offer a newly-designed car for sale, you have to
>>>> show documentation that proves that you've followed the
>>>> standard, or regulations based on the standard?
>>>
>>> Here's a cynical response: No, no, and no; not until somebody is
>>> killed.
>>>
>>> Straying off topic, I personally believe that lack of gov
>>> regulation is the single biggest weakness of the technology.
>>> Imagine what will happen when a steering wheel free car is
>>> involved in a fatal crash. The entire fleet will be grounded.
>>>
>>>
>> There have been fatalities already when the car was on
>> "autopilot".
>
> I've seen claims that, statistically, the self-driving cars are
> safer, but generate more news in a crash.  Hence, since they're a new
> thing, they get tarred and feathered.
>

Yep. And in the larger sense, crashes will be analyzed and fed back into 
various code bases. This could play the role that the NTSB plays in 
aviation ... mishaps.


> Dunno what truth is, but it certainly seems plausible.
>

Statistical arguments are like that.

-- 
Les Cargill

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Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-03-14 18:27 -0500
  Re: Automotive Software and the Law Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2017-03-14 20:18 -0400
  Re: Automotive Software and the Law HT-Lab <hans64@htminuslab.com> - 2017-03-15 11:18 +0000
    Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-15 11:36 -0500
      Re: Automotive Software and the Law HT-Lab <hans64@htminuslab.com> - 2017-03-15 17:12 +0000
        Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-03-15 12:32 -0500
          Re: Automotive Software and the Law John Speth <johnspeth@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-15 11:48 -0700
            Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-03-15 17:31 -0500
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2017-03-15 19:23 -0400
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-03-15 18:41 -0500
            Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 05:54 -0500
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-17 11:42 +0000
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 07:08 -0500
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-17 13:50 +0000
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-17 10:58 -0500
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2017-03-17 16:18 +0000
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 19:00 -0500
          Re: Automotive Software and the Law Jacob Sparre Andersen <jacob@jacob-sparre.dk> - 2017-03-15 22:01 +0100
          Re: Automotive Software and the Law Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2017-03-16 11:09 +0100
            Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-16 10:16 -0500
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2017-03-17 12:10 +0100
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 07:12 -0500
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-17 11:00 -0500
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2017-03-17 14:49 +0000
  Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 05:52 -0500
    Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-17 11:03 -0500

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