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Re: Automotive Software and the Law

From Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com>
Newsgroups comp.arch.embedded
Subject Re: Automotive Software and the Law
Date 2017-03-15 19:23 -0400
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On 2017-03-15 6:31 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>> Straying off topic, I personally believe that lack of gov
>> regulation is the single biggest weakness of the technology.
>> Imagine what will happen when a steering wheel free car is involved
>> in a fatal crash.  The entire fleet will be grounded.
> Well, lack of proper care in the execution, which problem may only be
>  fixed with government regulation.
>
> The entire Toyota fleet wasn't grounded even after several (possibly
>  dozens of) deaths worldwide from unintended acceleration; I'm not
> sure that steer-by-wire or even autonomous vehicles will be stopped.

It is one thing to provide non critical add on's when it is part of the
critical components with real consequences. I believe that the Toyota
problem was component failure without an appropriate fail-safe mode even
though there was testimony that given the following 24 conditions or so
it could have been software. Another example of this type of failure is
the GM ignition switches.

It has been a long time since we have seen a fleet shutdown but
mandatory few day recalls for ranges of serial numbers are actually
quite common.

The ability to flash software has made a real difference in a lot of
area's. There are often several versions of software depending on where
the vehicle is located.

w..

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Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-03-14 18:27 -0500
  Re: Automotive Software and the Law Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2017-03-14 20:18 -0400
  Re: Automotive Software and the Law HT-Lab <hans64@htminuslab.com> - 2017-03-15 11:18 +0000
    Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-15 11:36 -0500
      Re: Automotive Software and the Law HT-Lab <hans64@htminuslab.com> - 2017-03-15 17:12 +0000
        Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-03-15 12:32 -0500
          Re: Automotive Software and the Law John Speth <johnspeth@yahoo.com> - 2017-03-15 11:48 -0700
            Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-03-15 17:31 -0500
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2017-03-15 19:23 -0400
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2017-03-15 18:41 -0500
            Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 05:54 -0500
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-17 11:42 +0000
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 07:08 -0500
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-17 13:50 +0000
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-17 10:58 -0500
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2017-03-17 16:18 +0000
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 19:00 -0500
          Re: Automotive Software and the Law Jacob Sparre Andersen <jacob@jacob-sparre.dk> - 2017-03-15 22:01 +0100
          Re: Automotive Software and the Law Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2017-03-16 11:09 +0100
            Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-16 10:16 -0500
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2017-03-17 12:10 +0100
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 07:12 -0500
                Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-17 11:00 -0500
              Re: Automotive Software and the Law Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2017-03-17 14:49 +0000
  Re: Automotive Software and the Law Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2017-03-17 05:52 -0500
    Re: Automotive Software and the Law Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2017-03-17 11:03 -0500

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