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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.misc |
| Subject | Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks |
| Date | 2017-03-03 16:02 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <o9c430$vr2$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <20170302162646.e2e4b8f4.rsw@therandymon.com> <87lgsmr23q.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > * The SA_RESTART/EINTR thing is, again, just a matter of moving a > problem around between different layers. In this case the initial > decision to solve it in one layer rather than another may have been > a pragmatic one, but as it turns out it also has some practical > advantages: sometimes you _want_ your long-running operation to > terminate when a signal arrives. This also tends to highlight another difference between the "Unix" style and the one remaining other style (Windows). More often than not, the "Unix" style has been to leave policy decisions up to the code making the request. And in this situation, this is somewhat of a 'policy' decision. Do you want your long-running operation to terminate or to restart? Typically what ends up occurring on the Windows side is that Windows dictates one way, and if you really want the other method you are left with far more complexity than a simple flag to a system call or libc request. > * Author apparently does not understand what zombie processes are and > why they exist. There were aspects of the article where it seemed like the author was someone who has known only "the windows way" and is just now stepping into the Unix side, and since Unix does things differently, and "differences" must be bad, many of the items because "WTF..." items because they differed from his/her preconcieved notions built up from seeing only "windows" for a very long time. > * The longer ?find? example deliberately and admittedly avoids using > the tools designed to solve the problem at hand. Not exactly an > honest argument. Makes one wonder of much of the article is simply manufactured hype rather than honest observations.
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the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-03-02 16:26 -0500
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-03-03 00:09 +0200
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-03-03 00:04 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-03 00:25 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-03-03 11:02 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-03 11:05 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-03-03 11:06 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2017-03-03 15:40 +0200
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-03 23:01 +0100
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-03 22:13 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-03-03 14:07 +0200
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-03-03 12:12 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks "RS Wood" <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-03-03 08:47 -0500
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-03-03 16:37 +0200
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2017-03-03 02:37 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-03-03 11:01 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-03 12:12 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-03-03 13:51 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-03-03 14:19 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-03-03 12:59 -0500
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-03-03 18:14 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-03-03 16:06 -0400
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-03-03 16:02 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2017-03-04 15:44 +0200
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Caecilius <nospam@spamless.invalid> - 2017-03-03 18:29 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-03 22:16 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-04 07:35 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-04 10:19 +0100
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-04 11:16 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-04 12:47 +0100
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-04 12:35 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-04 09:42 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-04 11:20 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-04 12:48 +0100
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-04 12:34 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-04 15:39 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk> - 2017-03-18 13:06 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-03-19 18:56 -0400
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-20 00:35 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk> - 2017-03-20 05:47 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk> - 2017-03-20 06:06 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-21 19:01 +0100
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-04 12:41 +0100
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-03-04 12:58 +0100
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-03-04 12:34 +0000
Re: the Unix philosophy and a collection of hacks Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2017-03-04 15:43 +0000
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