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Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format?

From Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format?
Date 2017-02-21 09:05 -0800
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On 02/21/2017 08:33 AM, lab.eas@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 7:48:38 PM UTC+2, Ryahow wrote:
>> Since the device is obviously made for the Windows market,
>> would it work, if it doesn't have a linux driver.
>>
>> == TIA
>>
>>
>>
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> Grabit is my Windows crap.
>
> Ok: there would be a public <USB to IDE protocol> which any OS
> can/would have drivers for.
>
> But at the BIOS-level: the booting facilities caters for IDE, SATA,
> .... & USB<direct stik>. AFAIK USB is develishly complex:
>  it identifies to the port <what kind of device it is>.
> And the OS needs to use the matching drivers.
>
> EG. with a 3G dongle:
>  it is IDed as a cdrom, which the OS d/ls and runs,
>  which then tells the dongle: <here's the 'signal' you said you
>  needed, to switch to MODEM-mode>.
> And the OS wait's for the dongle to ID as a modem .......
>
> But the <BIOS> or new replacement can't do this.
> OTOH: has GRUB got these smart capabilities, because it first d/l's
> the drivers?
>
> == WDYS ?
>
	If your machine has USB ports I think you will find the
drivers already in place, chosen by the OS install.  Linux
is not Windows which seems to need to have drivers for specific
hardware installed.  I say seems because every Windows machine I
have every used seems to have USB drivers installed and was able
to deal with them on a basic level but my machines came with
Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 8.1 which I shoved out
of the way(reduced the space on the hard drive) and installed
Mandriva(2006-2010), Knoppix, PCLinux OS 2012-2017, and
Mageia 4.1 and 5.
	The machines that came with the Windows installation disks required a 
separate disk of drivers for the hardware on the
physical machine.  Linux installed stuff from its install disk
or downloaded the drivers it needed for/during the install.

	I bought a USB/Firewire drive which would work with
Windows or Mac and it turned out to work well with GNU/Linux.
Then after that first drive I bought cases and installed
drive which I bought separately for the purpose or salvaged.

	All this was nothing like as hard as configuring
internal and external SCSI drives on my Amigas.

	bliss "running fast and light" on PCLinuxOS64-2016.03
GNU&Linux 4.9.10-pclos1\

-- 
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? "Ryahow" <dog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 19:46 +0200
  Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-12-24 10:33 -0800
  Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-12-26 01:26 +0100
  Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-27 09:14 +0100
    Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-12-29 16:13 +0000
    Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-12-30 13:45 -0500
      Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-12-30 11:02 -0800
        Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-12-30 16:09 -0500
          Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-12-30 22:50 +0000
          Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-12-30 23:02 +0000
          Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2016-12-31 20:55 +0000
      Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-02 10:17 +0100
  Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? lab.eas@gmail.com - 2017-02-21 08:33 -0800
    Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-02-21 09:05 -0800
    GrabIt (was Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format?) ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2017-02-22 16:31 -0600
    Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-04-20 01:14 -0300

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