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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: Window Heater |
| Date | 2017-02-12 18:30 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <o7qr3s$eb6$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <o7oj4r$9vu$1@dont-email.me> <o7otme$2rh$1@dont-email.me> <o7qa9r02j2s@drn.newsguy.com> |
On 2/12/2017 1:42 PM, Winfield Hill wrote: > rickman wrote... >> >> Now that I think of that, heating the space behind the >> plastic reminds me of your ultra fine temperature controller. >> You put the sensor and the heater at the thin spot in the >> insulation. Heating the space in the window would >> completely stop the draft. >> >> The surprising part of the whole thing is just how small >> a temperature difference will result in a draft. I only >> measure 2 or 3 degrees difference between the Styrofoam >> and other objects in the room, yet the draft forms when >> it is very cold out. Likely the walls also create a >> draft, but not as pronounced. > > A wire-strip heater at the bottom could create an internal > circulation to heat the small gap a little, and create a > light surface draft that goes up instead of down. Would > such a draft also be a problem? No, that was my original idea. But I find resistance wire to be a PITA compared to using resistors. I had thought of using surface mount parts scattered across some circuit board strips, but found 100 watt resistors on eBay for a buck apiece. I initially used a bench supply and found 15 to 20 volts would do the job ok. So I pulled out an old laptop supply and it works great. I think I'm going to mount the resistors to an aluminum plate with some wood trim so it fills the bottom foot of the window. I'll add a second bank so the two halves can be heated independently. Use a "universal" laptop supply so the voltage can be adjusted just so and it should keep me warm all winter. Not so cheap, but no more than any of the heating plates I found on the Internet including from Aliexpress. The only hard part is cutting the plate to length, but I know someone with metal tools who can do this for me. -- Rick C
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Re: Window Heater rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 17:34 -0500
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Re: Window Heater rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 18:19 -0500
Re: Window Heater Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-02-12 10:42 -0800
Re: Window Heater rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 18:30 -0500
Re: Window Heater Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-12 08:45 +0000
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Re: Window Heater Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2017-02-11 23:52 -0600
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Re: Window Heater Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-14 14:28 -0800
Re: Window Heater rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 17:36 -0500
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Re: Window Heater rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 21:37 -0500
Re: Window Heater Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2017-02-13 15:08 -0600
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