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Re: rationality

From Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: rationality
Date 2015-11-03 10:42 +0100
Organization Me, Myself and I
Message-ID <o5cmgc-j57.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> (permalink)
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In article <d9prevF7bdcU1@mid.individual.net>,
Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote:
>"Andrew Swallow" wrote:
>
>> On 02/11/2015 15:13, Osmium wrote:
>
>>> I am not convinced they have stopped printing money.  Short term
>>> interest rates have effectively been zero for seven years.  The usage of
>>> money used to have value, now its value is zero.  Other things still
>>> have value:wheat, lumber, cement, textiles. Short term money is the only
>>> thing that has no value.  One way to have this happen would be if the
>>> supply suddenly became unlimited.  I am open to other theories.
>>
>> Who gets to pay zero rate interest?
>> Not me. Credit cards still charge interest. Mortgages still charge 
>> interest. Business loans still charge interest (if the company can get 
>> one). Government bonds pay you a tiny amount of interest (near zero). So I 
>> suspect that only the banks get the zero interest rate.
>
>I was talking about people having money available to loan.  Like me. Banks 
>are not people. I could go to ten thousand banks with my money and they 
>would all offer me about the same thing, zero. I limited my claim to short 
>term money, thus excluding the house mortgage you mention. Banks seem to 
>have a source of input funds that are free, they mark up the cost and output 
>funds, to businesses as you mention, cost more than zero.  There seems to be 
>a secret money faucet that only the banks (and credit card companies?) have 
>access to.
>
>I would expect to hear about little old ladies, widows, who expected to live 
>on interest for the rest of their lives but can't. I don't see those 
>stories.  Of course they never could, even in the past, if you factor in 
>inflation and taxes.  But they *thought* they could.  Which was, kind of, 
>the point, or at least *a* point 

One bit of pension advice:

Don't buy managed funds. Ever. Buy unmanaged, low-fee index funds instead, 
or manage your own portfolio.

The managed fund business have a saying; "This year you have the money, 
we have the experience. Next year, we have the money, you have the experience".

The fees charged for managed funds are way exorbitant, and they never, 
ever, beat a properly indexed low-margin fund. 

The "average investment portfolio", for a few scores of the values
of "average" are published daily by the large brokerage, financial
services firms or by the exchanges themselves. Within 15 minutes they
are free for everyone to see. Just buy a similar portfolio, or buy a
fund that does.

If you are going to pick values, go pick on macro values, not corporate
reports. The "shares, shares, bonds, cash" rule for the four quadrants
of the business cycle still makes a lot of sense. (starting at the bottom).

And random people are seldom more than around 30% off in the angle of
where we are in the business cycle; it permeates everything.

-- mrr

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                Re: power supplies Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-28 16:28 +0000
                Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-28 19:28 +0200
                Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 16:00 -0400
                Re: power supplies rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-29 06:09 +0000
                Re: power supplies Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 08:58 +0000
                Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:45 +0000
                Re: power supplies "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:20 -0500
                Re: power supplies Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-23 08:18 +0000
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 11:09 -0500
                Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-23 16:31 +0000
                Re: power supplies Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-23 11:20 -0700
                Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:45 +0000
                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:38 -0700
                Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:44 +0000
                Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-24 13:35 +0000
                Re: power supplies sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-30 18:35 -0400
                Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-01 13:17 +0000
                Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-01 08:27 -0500
                Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-02 13:11 +0000
                Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-02 14:42 +0000
                Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-02 19:17 +0100
                Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-02 15:14 -0400
                Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 14:20 -0500
                Re: power supplies Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-02 20:15 -0500
                Re: power supplies Michele <havana9@bigmailbox.net> - 2015-10-04 23:41 +0200
                Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-01 13:27 +0000
                Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-04 14:22 +0000
                Re: power supplies "Hanny Z" <hz@nospam.com> - 2015-10-05 03:46 +1100
                Re: power supplies Michele <havana9@bigmailbox.net> - 2015-10-04 23:51 +0200
                Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-05 12:47 +0000
                Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:29 +0000
                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-05 07:16 -0700
                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-05 15:37 +0100
                Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:35 +0000
                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-23 09:53 +0100
                Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0000
                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-23 13:50 +0100
                Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 20:16 +0000
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:46 -0500
                Re: power supplies Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-23 12:42 -0500
                Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 14:50 -0400
                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:51 -0700
                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 10:31 -0700
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-24 14:18 -0500
                Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 21:36 +0200
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-24 15:05 -0500
                Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 22:21 +0200
                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 13:49 -0700
                steam coold, too, was: power supplies danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-09-25 02:22 +0000
                Re: steam coold, too, was: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-25 07:17 -0700
                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 13:44 -0700
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 10:36 -0500
                Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-25 10:51 -0500
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 14:10 -0500
                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-25 12:33 -0700
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 15:07 -0500
                Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-25 20:21 +0000
                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-26 16:04 -0500
                Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-27 07:01 -0400
                Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 16:42 +0000
                Re: power supplies sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-30 18:42 -0400
                Re: power supplies Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:14 +0200
                Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 15:43 +0100
                Re: power supplies Dave Pitts <dpitts@cozx.com> - 2015-09-23 07:47 -0600
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 20:20 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 15:41 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:26 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-22 23:58 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 15:48 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2015-09-24 12:13 +0800
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:30 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:52 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 18:10 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:35 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 20:27 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 01:55 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:36 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-21 22:11 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 16:02 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 10:40 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-22 10:46 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-23 06:57 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 08:57 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-22 10:51 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 02:29 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 19:23 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 11:34 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 14:58 -0500
                accurate watches, was: Decimal point character and billions danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-09-23 20:51 +0000
                Re: accurate watches, was: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:49 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:05 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:01 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:47 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 18:52 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 12:14 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 16:00 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 01:23 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-25 09:07 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-23 14:52 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-23 14:05 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 12:55 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:13 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-24 00:46 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 07:19 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-24 17:50 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-22 10:53 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 02:30 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-22 22:12 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-23 06:58 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-22 19:22 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 10:00 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-24 07:43 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-23 12:46 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 18:56 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-24 04:05 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 22:31 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 15:49 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-24 11:05 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 16:30 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 08:12 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 18:52 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 16:02 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 01:23 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:28 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:17 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> - 2015-09-22 11:41 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-23 14:46 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-23 17:12 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-23 10:45 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:26 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-21 22:09 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:25 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-22 07:00 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 21:37 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-20 18:26 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-20 19:34 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 22:27 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-21 09:16 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:33 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-20 15:39 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:31 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 21:37 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-20 16:26 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-20 21:28 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-21 09:23 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-20 10:22 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 16:48 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:01 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 22:27 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions mausg@mail.com - 2015-09-21 10:28 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 16:29 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions mausg@mail.com - 2015-09-21 20:03 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:49 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-21 17:05 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-21 18:03 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-22 00:45 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-20 12:56 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:52 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 01:20 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-21 18:07 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-20 18:18 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:20 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-20 19:23 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 10:08 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 14:11 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 10:48 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-26 17:08 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 13:50 +1000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-28 05:43 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:08 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:03 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 10:55 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 12:36 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-28 09:54 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 13:20 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 19:02 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 15:12 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-28 17:01 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 17:15 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-28 17:05 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 20:49 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 07:32 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 18:36 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-29 03:07 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-29 10:38 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 12:53 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-29 18:15 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-29 12:14 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-29 12:24 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-29 20:26 +0100
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 12:16 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-01 10:32 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-29 17:32 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-29 07:47 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 07:36 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-29 13:35 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 10:26 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 17:15 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 11:52 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-30 22:54 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 09:02 +1000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-30 21:59 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 14:49 +1000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-09-30 20:09 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-01 05:47 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-01 15:13 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 05:40 +1000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 14:34 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 13:45 +1000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 11:59 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-30 19:14 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 14:56 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 16:08 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-28 13:30 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 17:12 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-29 13:55 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:02 +0000
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 17:13 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 21:22 -0400
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-29 07:52 +0200
                Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 07:52 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-02 16:41 -0700
                Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 18:55 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:10 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-05 16:20 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:05 -0500
                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-06 17:17 -0500
                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 08:27 -0700
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-07 15:22 -0500
                Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-07 21:42 +0100
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-07 18:01 -0500
                Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-08 12:02 +0100
                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 13:19 +0200
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-08 11:41 -0500
                Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-09 11:25 +0100
                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-08 07:49 -0500
                Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-09 13:02 +0100
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 10:32 -0700
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0000
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 15:07 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-09 19:16 +0000
                Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-09 23:59 -0300
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-10 12:03 -0700
                Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-08 11:17 -0500
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:28 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 18:29 +0000
                Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-08 13:21 -0700
                Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-14 11:41 -0700
                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-14 14:45 -0500
                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 22:02 +0000
                Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-15 03:21 -0300
                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-15 08:53 +0000
                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 13:53 -0700
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 11:32 -0500
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 10:36 -0700
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0000
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 15:15 -0500
                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-09 22:50 +0200
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:06 -0500
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 13:49 -0700
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 14:02 -0700
                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-09 14:23 -0400
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:20 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:24 -0500
                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:16 -0400
                Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-10 15:00 -0300
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-10 20:11 -0500
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:19 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 22:21 +0000
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:32 -0500
                Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-10 21:47 -0500
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:54 -0500
                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 21:39 +0000
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 19:43 -0400
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-12 21:29 -0700
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 16:33 -0500
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 15:25 -0700
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 19:06 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 11:23 -0500
                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 12:46 +0000
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 09:17 -0400
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 09:24 -0700
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 13:01 -0400
                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 19:04 +0000
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 16:20 -0400
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 16:24 -0500
                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:34 -0700
                Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-12 17:59 -0500
                Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 02:05 -0300
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:05 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:45 -0700
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 15:13 -0700
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 20:52 -0400
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 03:29 -0700
                Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 03:45 -0700
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 08:20 -0400
                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:56 -0700
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 16:16 -0400
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 16:50 -0500
                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 21:59 -0400
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:05 -0500
                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 06:43 -0400
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 10:58 -0500
                Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-15 16:41 +0000
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 12:24 -0500
                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 18:40 +0000
                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-15 07:12 -0700
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 10:48 -0500
                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 12:27 -0400
                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:37 -0500
                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-15 13:40 -0500

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