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Re: Lorentz transformations

From	"HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Lorentz transformations
Date	2016-12-02 05:44 +1100
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On 02/12/16 02:51, Michael Moroney wrote:
> HGW <hw@....> writes:

>
>> Idiot! the velocity addition law is just a  variation of his second
>> postulate.
>
>
>> Let v = light speed = c = c(c+v)/(c+v) = (c+v)/(1+v/c) = (c+v)/(1+cv/c^2)
>
> Yes, you ran it backwards so it only shows how the speed of light is c in
> all frames given the second postulate, it's not actually proof of the second
> postulate.  But note that you were able to write that (and Einstein write
> the forward version) with no mention of any aether, which was my point.
> Einstein was correct when he stated the aether was unnecessary.  So your
> claim of "The cause of Einstein's postulated source independence was quite
> clearly the aether of Lorentz" is quite clearly false.  The cause is just
> math.

Michael Moron-y, one would have to be a complete idiot to believe that 
Einstein's fairies were solely responsible for unifying all light speeds 
in the whole universe.

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      Re: Lorentz transformations Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-29 19:07 +0100
    Re: Lorentz transformations "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-11-30 05:04 +1100
      Re: Lorentz transformations Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-29 10:29 -0800
        Re: Lorentz transformations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-29 21:03 +0000
          Re: Lorentz transformations "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-01 03:41 +1100
            Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 11:17 -0600
              Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-01 08:44 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 15:49 -0600
            Re: Lorentz transformations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-30 22:08 +0000
              Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-01 21:07 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-01 16:00 +0000
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              Re: Lorentz transformations "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-03 05:29 +1100
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        Re: Lorentz transformations "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-01 02:56 +1100
          Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 10:36 -0600
            Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-01 08:43 +1100
              Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 15:49 -0600
                Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-01 20:54 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 10:41 -0600
                Re: Lorentz transformations "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-01 09:11 -0800
                Re: Lorentz transformations Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-12-01 15:10 +0100
              Re: Lorentz transformations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-30 22:18 +0000
                Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-01 21:05 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-01 15:51 +0000
                Re: Lorentz transformations "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-02 05:44 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 13:21 -0600
                Re: Lorentz transformations "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-12-03 05:23 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 12:27 -0600
                Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-04 11:03 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-03 21:21 -0500
                Re: Lorentz transformations HGW <hw@....> - 2016-12-05 06:41 +1100
                Re: Lorentz transformations moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-05 01:14 +0000
                Re: Lorentz transformations Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 13:23 -0600

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